Islamic Law Comes to Michigan

02 Oct 2011 06:59 #1 by outdoor338
Dearborn, Michigan has become a Sharia enclave, much like those populating many European countries. The city of Dearborn, Michigan denied a permit Wednesday for Qur’an-burning Pastor Terry Jones’ planned protest outside the Islamic Center of America on Good Friday.

Islamic supremacists were handed a victory for their violent intimidation and threats. City spokeswoman Mary Laundroche said that Jones’ permit had been denied for “public safety reasons.” In other words, they’re afraid Muslims will riot. And so the rights of free Americans have to be curtailed.

Terry Jones burned a Qur’an. So what? What happened to the freedom of assembly, the freedom of speech, and the freedom of expression? Terry Jones is prohibited from rallying in Michigan for fear of Islamic violence. Is that how far down the Sharia rabbit hole we have gone? Why is it that any time American law comes into conflict with Islamic law, it is American law that has to give way?

http://visiontoamerica.org/151/islamic- ... -michigan/

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02 Oct 2011 07:23 #2 by Nmysys
Because we have to be sensitive to their feelings, not ours. It is called PC.

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02 Oct 2011 07:38 #3 by AspenValley
How do you figure American law "had to give way" in this instance?

It's perfectly lawful for local authorities to deny permits for demonstrations that are clearly meant to incite violence.

American citizens have the right to assemble "peaceably" under the Constitutuion, but not the right to assemble for the purpose of creating a violent reaction. What's so hard to 'get' about that?

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02 Oct 2011 08:17 #4 by Rockdoc

AspenValley wrote: How do you figure American law "had to give way" in this instance?

It's perfectly lawful for local authorities to deny permits for demonstrations that are clearly meant to incite violence.

American citizens have the right to assemble "peaceably" under the Constitutuion, but not the right to assemble for the purpose of creating a violent reaction. What's so hard to 'get' about that?


Now we get onto the slippery slope of what will or will not be viewed as peaceably. It becomes a judgement call. Who determined that Pastor Terry Jones’ planned protest sole purpose was to create a violent reaction. He is not the one creating the reaction. That responsibility lies with the people who are doing the reacting. In essence the right to freedom of speech, expression and assembly are being curtailed and the blame is being placed on the wrong party. A strong Muslim reaction should NOT be the determining factor. It is akin to the strong reactions of any fanatical religious, anti war, labor union, political etc. group. Heck up here it could be anti vs pro bicycle confrontation. The difference is, though all such demonstrations often have elements of violence associated with them, they are tolerated or at least given an opportunity. Not so with this situation and my perception is that there is pandering going on at the expense of constitutional rights.

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02 Oct 2011 08:30 #5 by Arlen
Replied by Arlen on topic Islamic Law Comes to Michigan
I do not believe that the planned action by Jones falls under the umbrella of the Constitution. He was not planning a demonstration against the Federal government, but, rather, this was a matter for the state of Michigan to decide. Their power to deny the permit falls under the 9th and 10th ammednment which reserves the rights of the states to determine such actions.
The Federal government does not control EVERYTHING!

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02 Oct 2011 09:03 - 02 Oct 2011 11:01 #6 by Wayne Harrison
The story references a protest on Good Friday. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Good Friday in April?

Outdoor, you posted this thread last April with the same title, same text and same link:

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I'm not sure why you're posting it again. Can you enlighten us?

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02 Oct 2011 10:51 #7 by LadyJazzer
It's called "trolling"....

(Is it too early to start the annual "Happy Holidays" vs. "Merry Christmas" / "Nativity scenes on public property" / "Christian persecution" / "War on Christmas" schtick now?)

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02 Oct 2011 12:01 #8 by bailey bud
What's wrong with a group of Muslims building a cultural center near ground zero - what happened to freedom of speech and expression?

If this self-aggrandizing nut case wants to burn bibles in the name of 'Jee Zus'........ let him call the ACLU. That's what the Nazis did when they wanted a parade in Skokie, IL.

I have zero interest in supporting this guy.

Correct me if I'm wrong - but didn't Christ say "Blessed are the peacemakers?" (Matthew 5:9) How is Jones making peace?

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02 Oct 2011 13:16 #9 by Residenttroll returns
This sounds like Aurora, Colorado.

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