Medical Alcohol.

Watching the Ken Burns Prohibition show on PBS the last couple nights. Interesting how similar all that stuff is to the Pot Prohibition, or perhaps not interesting.

Interesting that those who liked alcohol did go down the medical path and big time for booze. Interesting how trying to regulate it made more of a mess and hurt more people than preserving your rights to consume drugs.

Interesting how boozers today see any other drug as much different.

Prohibition created the mob and a whole group of people that feel that they have the right to decide what you do. It created a police state and brought out the worse in society and its rifts. It made people not trust the police....all the same stuff the current drug prohibitions do today.

Maybe if we do this one more time we will get a different result.

I guess the real difference between booze and pot is the fact that booze is a heavy drug that ruins lives over and over and pot is just demonized as doing so, but rarely have I seen this. Most of the people I know that do pot are far more successful than those that drink regularly.

I am curious what folks' impressions are of the positive and negative effects of both pot and alcohol prohibition? Are they and were they worth it.

Before prohibition the average male drank a 1/5 every 2 days...and some people did not drink, but not many. Young people today do not realize how much older people used to drink...even just in the 70s how much more common it was to drink. I remember growing up that if I did not offer a beer to someone working on our house in the middle of a hot afternoon, my mom would get pissed at me. Many places in the US, esp back east where there is more tradition, people still drive home from their jobs, as construction workers or lawyers, with a beer between their knees. People readily admit to non cops on Sunday afternoon that they were just taking a beer drive. You can rant all you want, this is how it has been since the beginning of cars.

I was told in the 70's in park county, there were few cops and that the hippies, ranchers and the miners would simply settle all the disputes at the bars and go back to work come Monday. I guess that means there were some non-govt jobs in park county at some point in the past? Jobs and a bar scene, sound better than today?

I do agree with and wonder why pot is treated so different from alcohol.

Before prohibition the average male drank a 1/5 every 2 days

WOW! That would kill the average male today. Prohibition never works and, as you mentioned, pot is a lot tamer than alcohol as far as negative effects. (There are still drive through liquor stores in Wyoming where they will mix a drink for you at the drive through.)

Pot is considered a gateway drug.

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posteryoyo wrote: . Most of the people I know that do pot are far more successful than those that drink regularly.

It's very apparent then that you and I know VASTLY different people...

Guess I could consider myself in the category of 'drinks regularly'. A few beers or whiskey colas in the evenings are somewhat a regular occurance. I do recognize alcohol as a drug and prefer its calming effects, don't like being drunk, not a fan of slurred speech either. Just to relax after a long days work and maybe tinker around with leather projects I work on while the wife watches TV. Many of those I closely associate with are quite similar. I'm a business owner, hard worker, hunter, fisherman, avid outdoor enthusiast and consider my life a success.

On the flip side of that I do happen to know several MM "patients", how they got their license is a mystery to me but only proves that it takes ingenuity to be "f-ing lazy".... a term I often refer to the individuals I know of. They're jobless, "hey bro, could you loan me this or that... could I bum some cash to run to Loaf-N-Jug, do you know anyone hiring?" I know several companies hiring, but the job requirement is that 4 letter word WORK. These individuals are always whining and crying about something and think I'm a dick.... which they're correct because I have ZERO sympathy or tolerance for laziness.

In regards to prohibition, I don't feel it works. If it were to go into effect, I'd brew my own alcohol which I do on occasions anyway, another relaxing hobby. Couldn't imagine "prescribed alcohol", and agree its probably more damaging than pot. I do understand the benefits of MM for those that are ideal candidates, but as I loosely mentioned above, those I happen to know on it, are not what I'd deem "ideal".



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I don't think neither pot nor alcohol is bad in moderation, but it does seem in my circle of people I know many more who have ruined their lives with booze than drugs.
And my uncle, the prison chaplain, says the same thing. There are a lot of people in prison for drug offenses, but mainly they are there because they were selling. Many of the ones in there for violent offenses were under the influence of alcohol when they commited their crimes.

Never heard of anyone beating their wife because they were stoned.

Never heard of anyone needing an organ transplant because they smoked pot.

2wlady wrote: Pot is considered a gateway drug.

By who? I would say alchoholism is a gateway to self destruction on it's own...no other drugs needed. MJ is my gateway to surviving year 2 of chemo, and when it's over, so will be my need for MJ.

I believe that the only reason that pot is a 'gateway drug' is because other than where you get it for medical purposes, it introduces you to the drug trade. If you could obtain pot legally, there would then be no need to learn who the illegal suppliers and it would no longer be a gateway drug.