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Hey thanks man, I'll check that out.neptunechimney wrote:
CynicalBill wrote: This place is a political dumpster.
Bill, for serious politics I've been going to siliconinvestor.com for about the last 15 years. It started as an investment site but has expanded to include just about everything.
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It went ok with ONE person willing to try it...I was shocked to see one.Joe wrote:
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Cbill - your earlier experimental debate went well I thought. ?
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BadgerKustoms wrote: perhaps the largest reason however:
4. Sometimes my personal views are so radically different that I'll opt not to post simply because I feel no one would understand it anyway, nor do I want to spend so much time explaining it. So different that even in this forum I question if my comments would lead me to be banned.... not afraid of banning, don't particularly care, but it is convenient to log on and check out the local news once in a while.
There you have it, reasons for skipping some threads. Perhaps a few other's share the same feelings, or not.
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I just find it ironic that over there, you quite literally have members of factions that truly despise one another and yet you'll not find one thread of a flame nature. I've seen a lot of point/counter point type posts with "kudos" in between posted by those I know are absolute rivals. Granted, there's the whole "business is just business" speech, but doesn't anyone else find it a bit interesting that two warring factions can be completely civil in the public eye?
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Joe wrote: Just an observation. Lately there seems to be lots of posts with 0 or 1 response, just looking at the last three pages of "active topics"
Seems like lots of shouting and outrages, and not much discussion. That's all.
I suppose it's just a sign of the divided partisan times.
Not all that interesting to read really, the site just reads like the news headlines sometimes.
Maybe its just a temporary phase.
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I think that the reason that there aren't more neutral topics is because politics is of the highest interest to the most active of members on here, and the reason we have politically active members is because the atmosphere at other local sites is not conducive to having dialog (cuz you can't talk when threads get locked!) or there's not enough critical mass. I, for one, would dearly love to have even more content in every other forum here as a "community" forum should contain something that appeals to every member of the community; but again, it's up to the members to fill those forums with content. If you think there's not enough, then by all means, consider yourselves politely requested to do so!otisptoadwater wrote: What I have not seen is more traffic in the more neutral forums like the Campfire. When I log on to 285Bound and take a look at the active topics I see that the majority of the posts that are active are in the Courthouse and the topics are generally political in nature. So why not more traffic in the Campfire, Kitchen, Pet Corner, etc? No one has anything to post that isn't a scathing rip on one political party or the other, protests, military actions the US is involved in or threatened by?
Exactly. The way this community pulled together when Becky's daughter went missing was a perfect example - differences were set aside for the time being, even between people who wouldn't otherwise give each other the time of day, much less direct assistance, until it was resolved. When life is not only about survival or an emergency situation, people have time to reflect on what else is important in their lives and how to change it, and want to have those discussions with others in their sphere of influence, and that's when all of that collective coming together gets forgotten because rather than being united in one commonality, we are suddenly focusing on, and elevating in importance, the myriad of differences between us. To keep in mind the commonalities when not in a time of crisis, and continue to respond to those same online neighbors in a differences-set-aside, more civil manner, even when it's the differences that are being heatedly debated, is always something to strive for.I'm guessing most of us want to communicate with each other and discuss what the events in the news really mean to us. One of the best examples of a civil thread that I can think of is when a fire breaks out, no one calls anyone a moron or debates why one route or another out of the area is stupid. The community pulls together and we all feel the need to address a common threat. I've compared this phenomenon with being aboard a ship when a collision with another vessel occurs in the past; in that moment no one is a particular race, color, or creed, no one is a Democrat or a Republican, no one is a city slicker or a backwoods country hick. The entire crew is only concerned with the damage control that is required to keep the ship from sinking and saving their collective lives as a team.
A strong community, that which is most likely to weather any storm/hardship, is the one that is the most diverse - not divided, but diverse. You need people of all persuasions who can bring their unique skills, viewpoints, and methods of solving problems in order to overcome any challenge faced by the community as a whole. This country was not founded by a group of people who all had similar goals, thoughts, principles, and beliefs; and we are the better for it because one paradigm did not win out over another - we were founded on compromised guidelines that allowed for flexibility, adaptability, and growth while placing checks on the manners in which humans' less noble of instincts could hasten the destruction of the country as a whole. What this means is that, on an individual level, there are not limits to the strife and struggle between individuals of opposing beliefs, so we get down to an online forum where people come together, some anonymously, some not, to hash out that process that was begun long ago when humankind first started forming groups for survival and argued over the best way to go about it. It will be acrimonious, impassioned, and at times loud and angry. But there is no reason it can't be respectful where it should be respectful, and nasty where it should be nasty.Like others who have already made this point, I believe that traffic on 285Bound is a reflection of how divided our community is on many points. Most of the topics that draw a lot of attention and multiple posts have real impacts to our personal futures and the future of our nation, they are highly charged and they will probably always be divisive because most people will take one side or the other and defend their position.
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