This could be really bad for Cain.

05 Nov 2011 12:13 #171 by The Viking

LadyJazzer wrote:

Koch-backed group confirms financial ties to Cain campaign manager

A major conservative advocacy group, funded by Koch family oil interests, says it is reviewing its "financial dealings" with a Wisconsin charity headed by Herman Cain's campaign manager, raising fresh questions about the source of tens of thousands of dollars in funds that were used to pay expenses for Cain's presidential campaign.

The Center for Public Integrity reported late Thursday that Americans for Prosperity, one of the largest and most prominent of conservative political groups, has confirmed unspecified financial transactions with two closely linked Wisconsin non-profits -- Prosperity USA and Wisconsin Prosperity Network -- that were founded by Mark Block, Cain's campaign manager.

One of those groups, Prosperity USA, paid for $37,000 in expenses, including iPads, charter flights and items, for Cain's presidential campaign, according to financial documents disclosed this week by the Milwaukee-Wisconsin Journal Sentinel.

Non-profits are barred by law from paying for campaign expenses, and when the allegations first surfaced this week -- at the same time as the sexual harassment charges against the presidential candidate -- Cain said he would order an investigation of whether there were improper campaign violations.

Cain's campaign lawyer, Steve Bienek, declined to answer questions from NBC about the transactions between the Wisconsin charities headed by Block and the campaign, saying only that the campaign has retained an outside law firm to review them.


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20 ... gn-manager

Can you say "felony"...?


The thing that really caught me the other day is when Cain said the Koch brothers are his brotha from anotha motha in his speech. Cain is not AT ALL an outsider. He was chairman of the Federal Reserve and is totally tied into big money. I just don't understand people. I thought the Tea Party was against everything that Cain stands for.

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05 Nov 2011 12:14 #172 by The Viking

LadyJazzer wrote: God, I hope so... I PRAY for him to be the GOP nominee...almost as much as I was praying for Palin or Bachmann to get it.

(And at least *I* know what "felony" means...)


Most Dems are praying for that. And that is why the MSM loves him.

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05 Nov 2011 14:46 #173 by Soulshiner
He is taking all of the flak for Perry and Romney right now. The candidates were all ripping each other apart, Perry was sinking faster than a stone and Romney's flip flopping was peaking and now the press has some new red meat to digest. Brilliant deflection tactic.

When you plant ice you're going to harvest wind. - Robert Hunter

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06 Nov 2011 10:44 - 06 Nov 2011 12:24 #174 by Wayne Harrison

The Viking wrote: The thing that really caught me the other day is when Cain said the Koch brothers are his brotha from anotha motha in his speech. Cain is not AT ALL an outsider. He was chairman of the Federal Reserve and is totally tied into big money. I just don't understand people. I thought the Tea Party was against everything that Cain stands for.


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Just like the inspirational quote Cain used at the end of a debate came from a Pokemon movie, and the 9-9-9 plan is from Sim City, the "I am a brotha from another motha" quote came from a Jackie Chan Rush Hour 3 movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTVKz94SNnM&t=52s

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06 Nov 2011 11:14 #175 by Arlen
Conservation Voice, maybe you have just isolated the "Reagan" factor!

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06 Nov 2011 11:17 #176 by Reverend Revelant
You know what "could be really bad for Cain?" He's a conservative black. That makes him open season for the left. The left will have no compunction to treat him like a human being.

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06 Nov 2011 11:21 #177 by Reverend Revelant

The Viking wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote:

Koch-backed group confirms financial ties to Cain campaign manager

A major conservative advocacy group, funded by Koch family oil interests, says it is reviewing its "financial dealings" with a Wisconsin charity headed by Herman Cain's campaign manager, raising fresh questions about the source of tens of thousands of dollars in funds that were used to pay expenses for Cain's presidential campaign.

The Center for Public Integrity reported late Thursday that Americans for Prosperity, one of the largest and most prominent of conservative political groups, has confirmed unspecified financial transactions with two closely linked Wisconsin non-profits -- Prosperity USA and Wisconsin Prosperity Network -- that were founded by Mark Block, Cain's campaign manager.

One of those groups, Prosperity USA, paid for $37,000 in expenses, including iPads, charter flights and items, for Cain's presidential campaign, according to financial documents disclosed this week by the Milwaukee-Wisconsin Journal Sentinel.

Non-profits are barred by law from paying for campaign expenses, and when the allegations first surfaced this week -- at the same time as the sexual harassment charges against the presidential candidate -- Cain said he would order an investigation of whether there were improper campaign violations.

Cain's campaign lawyer, Steve Bienek, declined to answer questions from NBC about the transactions between the Wisconsin charities headed by Block and the campaign, saying only that the campaign has retained an outside law firm to review them.


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20 ... gn-manager

Can you say "felony"...?


The thing that really caught me the other day is when Cain said the Koch brothers are his brotha from anotha motha in his speech. Cain is not AT ALL an outsider. He was chairman of the Federal Reserve and is totally tied into big money. I just don't understand people. I thought the Tea Party was against everything that Cain stands for.


When are you going to come to the realization that the left and the right are beholden to the same masters? You feign surprise at these "revelations." You will find the same connections to big money and corporate cronyism among most all politicians, right, left or otherwise. You're partisan blinders will keep you doing the bidding of the political class, keeping busy chasing partisan phantoms while the real power continues to rob this country blind.

Thanks for helping the the rape of our country.

Waiting for Armageddon since 33 AD

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06 Nov 2011 11:31 - 06 Nov 2011 11:33 #178 by Arlen
Politics in this country has always been controlled by the wealthy since the Revolution. A general reading of U.S. history will reveal this very quickly. All of the public figures since before the Revolution are men who represent power and wealth. The illusion that the common man created and ran this nation is a recent fantasy which defies reality. It is a continuation of the Utopian thinking which erupted in the 60's movements. The attempt to divorce power (money) from government cannot be done. The result would be chaos until new strong men again take control of events. The base instincts of human nature will not allow Utopia. From the lower strata would arise another Hitler or Stalin, men not conerned with money, but raw power.

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06 Nov 2011 11:33 #179 by Blazer Bob
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyh ... -lynching/

"Herman Cain’s terrible, horrible, no good, very bad week ended on a discordantly high note. Addressing a packed ballroom in Washington’s Convention Centre, the former pizza mogul prompted whoops and cheers when he referred obliquely to the sexual harassment storm that had at times threatened to sweep away his White House candidacy.".................

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06 Nov 2011 11:43 #180 by Reverend Revelant

Arlen wrote: Politics in this country has always been controlled by the wealthy since the Revolution. A general reading of U.S. history will reveal this very quickly. All of the public figures since before the Revolution are men who represent power and wealth. The illusion that the common man created and ran this nation is a recent fantasy which defies reality. It is a continuation of the Utopian thinking which erupted in the 60's movements. The attempt to divorce power (money) from government cannot be done. The result would be chaos until new strong men again take control of events. The base instincts of human nature will not allow Utopia. From the lower strata would arise another Hitler or Stalin, men not conerned with money, but raw power.


Spot on. That's what I have been saying for so many years. And I admit, it's not some grand revelation on my part, but as you say, it's a fact that has been covered up by "the Utopian thinking which erupted in the 60's movements." I come from an era before that... when I knew my place and learned how to achieve what I wanted, what I needed, what my family needed without giving into the illusion that I could change squat. ANd without lowering myself to the gutter with all the other useful idiots who were helping the political class retain it's power. Politicians like to throw us the bones of activism, making us believe that we are effecting some sort of change, while all the while they simply put on a new face, a new mask, repeat some pithy sayings, we smile, feel good and then they go right back to robbing us blind.

That's the same problem with the Occupy movement. It was a bone sent out by the administration and it's respective toadies to appear like a meaningful movement, an activity that would effect change. The only thing this "movement" is doing is keeping the poor peons busy with something masquerading as activism and acting as a deflection from the real rape that is happening on a daily basis in Washington.

It's not a matter of left against right... it's should be us against the whole of what our political system has become.

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