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outdoor338 wrote: and reality, begins when your heart stops beating....
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outdoor338 wrote: and reality, begins when your heart stops beating....
Viking wrote: Far from a piece of crap. They just proved that this nation still stand united behind one thing. And that is God!
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You are wrong. I'd suggest a college course or two in evolution...and statistics...and genetics...and biochemistry...and molecular biology...and developmental biology...and biophysics.HEARTLESS wrote: From a mathematical or statistical probability standpoint, evolution as taught, is virtually impossible.
Really? That's a stretch - I thought we were founded on the ideals of freedom of choice, especially in regards to religion, and freedom from persecution.The bill briefly outlines the history of government references to God, and adds in that "if religion and morality are taken out of the market-place of ideas, the very freedom on which the United States was founded cannot be secured."
"Chilling"? Little melodramatic there, don't'cha think? Aren't you supposed to learn about god in church, not our classrooms? Shouldn't they be seeing maps, alphabets, math problems, diagrams of cells, periodic charts, etc on the walls of their classrooms?"Federal agencies and departments have been instructed that the phrase not be posted in those buildings," Forbes wrote in March. "The effect on our public schools has been chilling, as teachers and administrators do not know whether they can post our national motto on their walls."
We have trust issues in this country, but not the ones which will be debated Tuesday in Congress. While it has been understood in a variety of ways over the centuries, faith has been a crucial component of how the vast majority of Americans have understood who they are, not only as individuals, but as Americans. So the notion that "we" as Americans would use this motto, even if not all Americans do trust in God, is not only fair, it is appropriate and good. But the fact that "In God We Trust" is a beautiful motto does not mean that now is the best time to spend our energies reaffirming it, especially if doing so will likely cause an unnecessary backlash against its use itself. This is precisely the kind of legislation which fuels resistance, by many people, to the motto being used in the first place.
But the real shame in raising this issue now, is that here in the United States we already had a national motto, at least informally, before President Eisenhower signed "In God We Trust" into law in 1956. With their action today, this new initiative pushes that old motto further out of the public eye at precisely a moment when we need it most. The old motto? "E Pluribus Unum" ("from many, one").
Established by an act of Congress in 1782, the animating premise of those words has never been more important. The notion that we, as a nation, with all of the paths which brought us to these shores, and with all the different, and even conflicting, views we espouse, remain unified, is a lesson for us all.
So while Republicans will introduce the legislation supporting the use of "In God We Trust", and Democrats will rail against it, neither will do anything to address the real question we have in this country - do we trust each other to come together and fix what's broken? Those are the real trust issues we need to address in this nation, and it's high time to we start doing so. Ultimately, "In God We Trust" is a mere motto, one whose claim I support, but nonetheless, it is simply a motto. "E Pluribus Unum" is both a motto and an aspiration. One might even call it a prayer. But whatever one calls it, it calls to us to rise to a great challenge and we should demand that both we and our elected officials rise to it now.
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The Viking wrote: Just a thought. I wonder how many scientists will be in Heaven?
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