Oikophobia

02 Nov 2011 20:28 #1 by Obam me
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Oikophobia is fear of the familiar: "the disposition, in any conflict, to side with 'them' against 'us', and the felt need to denigrate the customs, culture and institutions that are identifiably 'ours.'


Excellent explanation of why liberals find Americans so revolting.

Scruton was writing in 2004, and his focus was on Britain and Europe, not America. But his warning about the danger of oikophobes--whom he amusingly dubs "oiks"--is very pertinent on this side of the Atlantic today, and it illuminates how what are sometimes dismissed as mere matters of "culture" tie in with economic and social policy:

The oik repudiates national loyalties and defines his goals and ideals against the nation, promoting transnational institutions over national governments, accepting and endorsing laws that are imposed on us from on high by the EU or the UN, though without troubling to consider Terence's question, and defining his political vision in terms of universal values that have been purified of all reference to the particular attachments of a real historical community.

The oik is, in his own eyes, a defender of enlightened universalism against local chauvinism. And it is the rise of the oik that has led to the growing crisis of legitimacy in the nation states of Europe. For we are seeing a massive expansion of the legislative burden on the people of Europe, and a relentless assault on the only loyalties that would enable them voluntarily to bear it. The explosive effect of this has already been felt in Holland and France. It will be felt soon everywhere, and the result may not be what the oiks expect. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 02824.html

Sounds all too familiar.

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02 Nov 2011 20:37 #2 by Pony Soldier
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Have you seen any liberals here "repudiating national loyalties" or "defining his goals and ideals against the nation" or any of this other garbage? This is a bunch of crap written to bolster someone's sense of worth to their country while dismissing other points of view as societal rot.

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02 Nov 2011 20:45 #3 by Obam me
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Not so fast there TM...liberals are real good at dismissing other points of view. Here are just a few. And I agree - it's total societal rot. Problem is most liberals just don't know they're anti-American.

Resistance to the vast expansion of government power, intrusiveness and debt, as represented by the Tea Party movement? Why, racist resentment toward a black president.

-- Disgust and alarm with the federal government's unwillingness to curb illegal immigration, as crystallized in the Arizona law? Nativism.

-- Opposition to the most radical redefinition of marriage in human history, as expressed in Proposition 8 in California? Homophobia.

-- Opposition to a 15-story Islamic center and mosque near Ground Zero? Islamophobia.

Now we know why the country has become "ungovernable," last year's excuse for the Democrats' failure of governance: Who can possibly govern a nation of racist, nativist, homophobic Islamophobes?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 02824.html

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02 Nov 2011 21:04 #4 by otisptoadwater
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Isn't the point far more simple? From the point of view of an oik "You lot have all the stuff, the "99%" have very little stuff."

It matters not to the many that the few took risks, built successful and unsuccessful businesses along the way, and personally sacrificed to ensure that employees got paid and jobs were secure. Very few of the "1%" were born to it in the US, most had to work hard to get what they have today. So far the US is not a Socialist country and everyone is free to pursue their own success or failure. I don't want the Gubment dipping into my profits or demanding more taxes than I should have to pay to keep the nation solvent. It's time for the US to establish an environment that promotes business instead of punishing individuals that keep business and jobs in the US.

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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02 Nov 2011 21:43 #5 by jf1acai
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:thumbsup: :like:

Experience enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again - Jeanne Pincha-Tulley

Comprehensive is Latin for there is lots of bad stuff in it - Trey Gowdy

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02 Nov 2011 22:16 #6 by otisptoadwater
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Trouble, your avatar says it all!

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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02 Nov 2011 22:38 #7 by archer
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Thanks trouble...you have answered one question I have. Now I know that conservative parents do indeed teach their kids not to share. Yep, your avatar says it all.

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02 Nov 2011 22:54 #8 by Obam me
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Archer, you're off topic. It's not about sharing. It's about liberals self-loathing and hate of American values. I agree with Krauthammer where he says "liberals have lost the argument in the court of public opinion." Liberals know capitalism (not greedy capitalism) works so they have to attack our American culture. Michael Moore, AlGore and most of Hollywood are pure liberal hypocrites and are a fine example of those suffering from Oikophobia.

P.S. Archer, I taught my kids to share but I also taught them that it's up to them to earn their own way and not expect anyone else to pad their lives. You've answered my question too...apparently liberals teach their kids to indulge in Adult Baby Lifestyles! Tell me, where do you find those adorable adult-sized sleepers for your grown children?! rofllol

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02 Nov 2011 23:09 #9 by archer
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Trouble wrote: Archer, you're off topic. It's not about sharing. It's about liberals self-loathing and hate of American values. I agree with Krauthammer where he says "liberals have lost the argument in the court of public opinion." Liberals know capitalism (not greedy capitalism) works so they have to attack our American culture. Michael Moore, AlGore and most of Hollywood are pure liberal hypocrites and are a fine example of those suffering from Oikophobia.

P.S. Archer, I taught my kids to share but I also taught them that it's up to them to earn their own way and not expect anyone else to pad their lives. You've answered my question too...apparently liberals teach their kids to indulge in Adult Baby Lifestyles! Tell me, where do you find those adorable adult-sized sleepers for your grown children?! rofllol


Trouble....the topic police

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If you don't want people to think that your avitar reflects you....then don't use it. Obviously you think sharing is an evil liberal trait....that's OK....the selfish generation will bring this country to it's knees soon enough and you will be at the head of the line crying "don't touch anything ....it's all mine....mine, mine, mine".

I guess liberals follow Christian ideals better than conservatives, we do indeed teach our kids to share with each other and with those less fortunate than they are.......we also teach them it is better to give than to receive, and to do onto others as they would wish done unto them. Yep....no surprise that you would find those traits worthy of your disdain.

Oh.....and say hi to your alter-ego ResidentTroll, shall we expect him to ride to your rescue this evening????

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02 Nov 2011 23:21 #10 by Obam me
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Archer you're so funny! I LOVE my new avatar...it reflects my fine sense of humor!!

Sharing is a wonderful trait...STEALING however IS A CRIME!! And that's what liberals do...STEAL!!!! Those ADULT BABIES you liberals raise are the ones that are bringing our country to it's knees...it's call ENTITLEMENTS, i.e. please pass the pacifier!! Your self-righteousness is blinding you Arch.

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