Anti-Union Issue-2 in OHIO going down... 2-1

09 Nov 2011 07:16 #11 by FredHayek
Will these off-off year elections signal a revival of the Dem party? Probably not, the unions and their members were just better at getting the vote out. Voter turnout in Colorado was way down too.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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09 Nov 2011 09:34 #12 by LadyJazzer
Oh, and let's not forget that Dems won the special election for the state senate seat in Iowa. The GOP won't be repealing the gay-marriage law any time soon.

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09 Nov 2011 09:36 #13 by outdoor338
next year, many of you libs will be bounced out of office...lets see what you will say then LJ...

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09 Nov 2011 11:22 #14 by Wayne Harrison
Last night's vote was the weakest off-year election for Republicans since 2007.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/ ... icans.html

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09 Nov 2011 11:27 #15 by LadyJazzer
And I just remembered that Immigration Law mastermind in Arizona, Russell Pearce, went down in a recall election. Good riddance. I'm against illegal immigration but his hateful stuff was over the line.

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09 Nov 2011 12:31 #16 by LadyJazzer
Yo-ho-ho, and Scott Walker is next.

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09 Nov 2011 14:21 #17 by ScienceChic

The Viking wrote: I agree. Stupid clueless liberals! They will never get it! the top 10 poorest cities have been run by Dems for decades and some have never had a Republican mayor. They just want the government to take care of them

F*** that. I have family and friends in Ohio who are nurses, firemen, policemen, and teachers and every one of 'em is a Republican and every one of 'em voted against this bill! They take care of themselves, but won't let the government take their rights away from them and make their lives harder either. This bill was defeated BY THE PEOPLE, conservative and liberal alike.

http://www.truth-out.org/ohio-labor-mov ... 1320856161
Ohio Labor Movement Defeats Anti-Union Bill and Its Wealthy Supporters
Wednesday 9 November 2011
by: Mike Ludwig

Ohioans voted to repeal Senate Bill 5 (SB 5) by a margin of 61 to 38 percent. SB 5 would have limited collective bargaining rights for more than 350,000 public workers in Ohio and increased health care and pension costs for some workers.

SB 5 passed the Ohio legislature by a single vote in March, and soon after, 10,000 pro-worker volunteers began working to put the bill up for a voter referendum, as allowed by Ohio law. Volunteers collected an unprecedented 1.3 million signatures by June.

The campaign pit money from unions and their middle-class supporters against secret funds donated by businesses, wealthy Ohioans and out-of-state interests. We Are Ohio, labor's main campaign vehicle, reported all of their finances and raised $30 million, mostly from Ohio unions and public teachers groups. Building a Better Ohio, the GOP-linked group defending the law, set up a nonprofit corporation to raise funds and avoided revealing their finances to the public, but a recent Truthout investigation shed light on the Republican fund raising scheme.

In the end, the pro-SB 5 campaign failed to gain the same momentum as the repeal effort, which received massive support from thousands of tireless volunteers and middle-class donors, who refused to let Ohio's police, firefighters and teachers lose their collective voice.


And your claim that the top ten poorest cities have all had Democrat mayors...mostly useless. There are a whole lot more factors than just a mayor as to why a city is poor - economic and social demographics for one, influx of immigrants, geographic location, industry shut-downs, etc.

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09 Nov 2011 14:31 #18 by FredHayek
Industry shut downs? Maybe the industries are shutting down or moving away because the Dem mayors make it hard for businesses to survive.

Meanwhile in Ohio, more companies will move down to the sun belt with non-union private and goverment employers.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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09 Nov 2011 14:49 #19 by LadyJazzer

SS109 wrote: Industry shut downs? Maybe the industries are shutting down or moving away because the Dem mayors make it hard for businesses to survive.

Meanwhile in Ohio, more companies will move down to the sun belt with non-union private and goverment employers.


Wow, since the referendum only applied to public workers, teachers, firemen, etc., you REALLY think that companies will move south because of public worker's rights?

You need to get back on your meds....

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09 Nov 2011 15:04 #20 by Reverend Revelant

LadyJazzer wrote:

SS109 wrote: Industry shut downs? Maybe the industries are shutting down or moving away because the Dem mayors make it hard for businesses to survive.

Meanwhile in Ohio, more companies will move down to the sun belt with non-union private and goverment employers.


Wow, since the referendum only applied to public workers, teachers, firemen, etc., you REALLY think that companies will move south because of public worker's rights?

You need to get back on your meds....


Yes... because those salaries, pensions and health care policies of those public workers have to be paid by the taxpayers, which corporations so happen to be part of. You think it's magic money or something that falls from the sky? And why is it you have to tag every one of your comments with some nasty-a**ed quip. You need to get off your rag. (see, I can do it too)

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