Business Owners have had Enough of the OWS Crowd

11 Nov 2011 19:03 #1 by otisptoadwater
Small business owners and local residents fed up with the “Occupiers” at Zuccotti Park in New York City are planning a counterprotest and news conference of their own Monday, to make clear the crowd has long overstayed its welcome — and that businesses will not survive if the “occupation” continues.

Flyers are being passed around at small businesses and residential buildings around the park in downtown Manhattan promoting a “Protest against the Occupy Wall St. and Mayor Bloomberg who does nothing to get them to leave.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/11/small-business-owners-fight-back-against-occupy-wall-street/

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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11 Nov 2011 19:25 #2 by AspenValley
I'll bet a bunch of Boston shopkeepers found the American Revolution going on in front of their doorsteps to be inconvenient and bad for business.

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11 Nov 2011 19:47 #3 by otisptoadwater

AspenValley wrote: I'll bet a bunch of Boston shopkeepers found the American Revolution going on in front of their doorsteps to be inconvenient and bad for business.


I bet the business owners did too and I wouldn't blame them for being aggressive about sending the OWS crowd away! The problem with the OWS crowd, IMHO, is that they have no focus and no uniform charter. I'd be less critical of the OWS if they could state exactly what they stand for and take some decisive action. Loitering in the parks and sidewalks of America with a message that reads "we are pissed off at the 1% for a variety of reasons that none of us can seem to agree on" isn't compelling and doesn't help anyone to determine what the issues are.

If there is going to be a revolution then more action than a few protests is going to be required. It will involve violence and breaking existing laws, I doubt that the OWS crowd has the intestinal fortitude to go that far. I predict that the OWS crowd will collectively fold once enough business owners and other organizations force the police and city governments to disband them.

Prove me wrong, I'm fully prepared for anarchy INCONUS, just don't come knocking on my door once your political experiment fails looking for hand outs. The only thing I'll be giving away for free will be big doses of copper jacketed lead and shotgun pellets.

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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11 Nov 2011 19:57 #4 by AspenValley
So, since they don't have a nice bulleted PowerPoint presentation explaining their "charter" to your satisfaction, in your opinion it's okay to shoot at them?

Also...seems to me it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out exactly what their message is, but then, maybe I overestimate the ability of some to interpret the very obvious.

It's also interesting that you find fault with them for failing to be violent. I'd prefer to see them throwing some molotov cocktails through those nice plate-glass windows at Chase headquarters myself, but it seems odd to hear this complaint from someone who seems so annoyed at how bad for business their very presence is.

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11 Nov 2011 20:24 #5 by otisptoadwater
I guess I'm old fashioned that way, if you are angry then tell me exactly what you are angry about and have a plan of action instead of loitering and just being angry in general. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to cite the Arab Spring as a reference for what it takes to over turn a government.

I'm not advocating violence in this case, in fact I oppose it. At the same time, if the OWS movement's intent is to over throw the Gubment they will need to do more than hang out in the parks and on the sidewalks in cities across America. Or they could wait until next year and vote...

The OWS crowd has not demonstrated to me that they can do much more that just hang around in public spaces and cause cities to pay police and other civil servants to be present 24X7. The impact of the OWS protests is shutting down businesses and worsening local economies. I hope all of them pay a visit to their local hotel grey bar and suffer the consequences of breaking the law.

In the meanwhile, if OWS really means to overthrow the gubment they had better get aggressive and commit to a single purpose; I don't get the impression that this amorphous blob has the ability to get that organized.

ABOVE ALL OWS NEEDS TO FOCUS THEIR ANGER ON THE GUBMENT. Private industry and the banks operate in accordance with regulations the gubment enforces.

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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11 Nov 2011 20:38 #6 by AspenValley

otisptoadwater wrote: I guess I'm old fashioned that way, if you are angry then tell me exactly what you are angry about and have a plan of action instead of loitering and just being angry in general. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to cite the Arab Spring as a reference for what it takes to over turn a government.

I'm not advocating violence in this case, in fact I oppose it. At the same time, if the OWS movement's intent is to over throw the Gubment they will need to do more than hang out in the parks and on the sidewalks in cities across America. Or they could wait until next year and vote...

The OWS crowd has not demonstrated to me that they can do much more that just hang around in public spaces and cause cities to pay police and other civil servants to be present 24X7. The impact of the OWS protests is shutting down businesses and worsening local economies. I hope all of them pay a visit to their local hotel grey bar and suffer the consequences of breaking the law.

In the meanwhile, if OWS really means to overthrow the gubment they had better get aggressive and commit to a single purpose; I don't get the impression that this amorphous blob has the ability to get that organized.

ABOVE ALL OWS NEEDS TO FOCUS THEIR ANGER ON THE GUBMENT. Private industry and the banks operate in accordance with regulations the gubment enforces.



You seriously imagine that "private industry and the banks operate in accordance with regulations"? If so, I guess I did in fact underestimate the inability of some to interpret the obvious.

How many, exactly, of those lawbreakers and thieves who crashed most of the global economy with their rampant fraud and theft are cooling their heels in jail and paying some of those "consequences of breaking the law"?

And what laws, exactly, are you accusing the protestors of breaking here? Inconvenincing shopkeepers? Being bad for business? I was not aware those were jailable offenses. At least not yet.

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11 Nov 2011 21:11 #7 by otisptoadwater
Object to my opinions as much as you like, the facts tell the real story. The OWS crowd is rife with sexual assaults ( http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/09/ra ... -protests/ ) and many groups are becoming violent.

Perhaps you are correct, the "Man" is forcing laws on the many to his advantage. Provide the rest of us with a few facts that support your arguments, or keep up the charade.

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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