archer wrote: Wouldn't this be a case where the federal government is taking away the state's rights to determine who is allowed to conceal carry in their state?
Does the federal govt require that all states must honor another states drivers license, or is that an agreement among the states.
The other question I have is if the feds can mandate this...why not healthcare? Or do you think some states will take the feds to court too over this?
If what Martin posted is part of the bill, then what does the bill change?
To my mind it goes more towards implementing Article IV, Section 2 - the privileges and immunities clause. If the State in which I am a citizen issues me a CCW permit, that is not lost when I travel to another state simply because I am not a citizen of that State - I retain the privileges and immunities as a citizen of my State regardless of where I travel among the States which belong to the same union.
That is not at all the same as requiring you to participate in commerce of the general government's choosing. If they can require you to participate in the commerce of purchasing health insurance, what commerce lies beyond their power to compel your participation in? Can they require you to purchase and carry a firearm? Can they require you to purchase a home? Can they compel your purchase of a 401K or IRA? How about disability insurance or life insurance or flood insurance? Perhaps they would then also be able to compel you to purchase insurance to cover your credit card debts in case you lose your job or decide not to pay the bill? I've saved the best for last; why wouldn't they then also be able to compel you to purchase Treasury Bonds to finance the $1.5 Trillion worth of annual spending which is not currently covered by the revenue they derive from the existing taxes that are levied and collected?
Under the proposed legislation, if I were a CCW permit holder in Colorado I would be able to carry my arms concealed in any State, but that would not shield me from the laws of another state regarding where a concealed weapon was allowed to be carried by the permit holders of that State. If, as an example, the laws of California said that their CCW holders were not allowed to carry their arms into public restaurants, then that same restriction would apply to me when I traveled to California but California would have to honor the permit that another State issued to one of its citizens as equally as they would one they issued to one of their citizens.
Jefferson would not have concealed his guns- there were no such laws back in his day. Every citizen could open carry and no one would give it a second look- and the massive bureaucracy of gun control laws didn't come around until the last decades.
1785 August 19. (Jefferson to Peter Carr). "As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprize, and independance to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks."[6]
"The constant companion"- in other words- take your gun with you everywhere.
BearMtnHIB wrote: Jefferson would not have concealed his guns- there were no such laws back in his day. Every citizen could open carry and no one would give it a second look- and the massive bureaucracy of gun control laws didn't come around until the last decades.
1785 August 19. (Jefferson to Peter Carr). "As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprize, and independance to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks."[6]
"The constant companion"- in other words- take your gun with you everywhere.
And what does Jefferson have to do with this subject... heck... wasn't he one of those crazy dudes who helped with that silly constitution thing?
