The dress code at Live Oak High School in northern California explicitly prohibits "any clothing or decoration which detracts from the learning environment." Offending wear includes obscene images or gestures, statements of a sexual nature or swear words, depictions of substances illegal to juveniles or displays of weapons or violence, symbols of gang culture, and the ubiquitous below-the-waist, underwear-exposing jeans.
But why would a shirt with the American flag get you sent home?
A federal judge has ruled that officials at Live Oak in Morgan Hill had a legal right to send home students wearing shirts with the American flag on Cinco de Mayo because of a "reasonable fear" the images could spark violence, the Washington Post reported.
(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker’s desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.
Well, that's just stupid. They should have used the opportunity to explain to the kids how the victory that is celebrated by Cinco de Mayo actually helped the United States. Too many people are finding way too many things to be offended by these days.
towermonkey wrote: Well, that's just stupid. They should have used the opportunity to explain to the kids how the victory that is celebrated by Cinco de Mayo actually helped the United States. Too many people are finding way too many things to be offended by these days.
We were talking about this on FB and we think they should start an Occupy type movement and every kid that can should show up supporting this great nations wearing a shirt with a US Flag on it. Show them that we are sick and tired of letting the minority and thier issues control and rule the majority and continue to get rid of America's freedoms one by one. What are they going to do? Send 3/4 of the school home? Let them try.
(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.
(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
towermonkey wrote: Well, that's just stupid. They should have used the opportunity to explain to the kids how the victory that is celebrated by Cinco de Mayo actually helped the United States. Too many people are finding way too many things to be offended by these days.
We were talking about this on FB and we think they should start an Occupy type movement and every kid that can should show up supporting this great nations wearing a shirt with a US Flag on it. Show them that we are sick and tired of letting the minority and thier issues control and rule the majority and continue to get rid of America's freedoms one by one. What are they going to do? Send 3/4 of the school home? Let them try.
That's why we are a Republic... because the majority is not always right. What you are saying is you don't like this decision so you want to skirt around our form of government. Not very American on your part. Yep... when it don't go your way, make believe the rules don't apply to you.
This was an issue a long time ago, perhaps back in the 60s when people started putting flags on their clothing. The US code that Kate has cited came into play then. SInce that time there has been a progressive leniency in allowing people to embroider their clothing with US flags. So, while the code says one thing, the application has not been in vogue for decades. While I'm one for honoring and respecting the American flag as our government seeks, I find the incident in question laughable, considering I see people in OWS trampling on the US flag and much worse than even that. Where is the outrage or publication of such unacceptable behavior? The students where honoring and taking pride in their country and are denied that expression because of "reasonable fear" of unrest brought about buy those who do not honor the US?? "Reasonable fear" has nothing to do with why the flag should not be worn as it was based exclusively on the US code. Clearly the ruling federal judge is clueless. Frankly, to have a judge rule as he/she did speaks volumes. This nation has become a nation where people live in fear of what might be. It's a nation where we fail to validate the very people who support our nation and instead, brace those who disrespect it in so many different ways. America is no longer seen as a strong nation by the rest of the world. They are seen as weak because our leaders bend over backwards not to offend anyone, and that weakness is constantly being used against them. Now a federal judge serves official notice that we tremble in fear that those who live in this country and fail to honor it may cause trouble. So, it is best you take your visual support for your country and hide it, don't offend the people who use the US for personal gain only. When someone craps on the US flag in public, it's ok because they are protesting and that has no "reasonable fear" risk involved. Truly, the lack of logic is baffling.
towermonkey wrote: Well, that's just stupid. They should have used the opportunity to explain to the kids how the victory that is celebrated by Cinco de Mayo actually helped the United States. Too many people are finding way too many things to be offended by these days.
We were talking about this on FB and we think they should start an Occupy type movement and every kid that can should show up supporting this great nations wearing a shirt with a US Flag on it. Show them that we are sick and tired of letting the minority and thier issues control and rule the majority and continue to get rid of America's freedoms one by one. What are they going to do? Send 3/4 of the school home? Let them try.
That's why we are a Republic... because the majority is not always right. What you are saying is you don't like this decision so you want to skirt around our form of government. Not very American on your part. Yep... when it don't go your way, make believe the rules don't apply to you.
But the rules do apply. That is why there is a OWS. That is why there are protests. People are allowed to express their views. Would you have us continue to cower in fear of offending some a**hole that has no vested interest in this nation?
towermonkey wrote: Well, that's just stupid. They should have used the opportunity to explain to the kids how the victory that is celebrated by Cinco de Mayo actually helped the United States. Too many people are finding way too many things to be offended by these days.
We were talking about this on FB and we think they should start an Occupy type movement and every kid that can should show up supporting this great nations wearing a shirt with a US Flag on it. Show them that we are sick and tired of letting the minority and thier issues control and rule the majority and continue to get rid of America's freedoms one by one. What are they going to do? Send 3/4 of the school home? Let them try.
That's why we are a Republic... because the majority is not always right. What you are saying is you don't like this decision so you want to skirt around our form of government. Not very American on your part. Yep... when it don't go your way, make believe the rules don't apply to you.
But the rules do apply. That is why there is a OWS. That is why there are protests. People are allowed to express their views. Would you have us continue to cower in fear of offending some a**hole that has no vested interest in this nation?
Why is it every year around 4th of July, Memorial Day, Veterans Day, etc there is always this issue about people who want to wear red white and blue to school, or to work etc. This issue is pretty simple. If wearing the AMERICAN FLAG offends you, or people are worried it might cause trouble, the hell with them that it offends. This is the United States of American, you are in our country. The language spoken here is American English, we write in American English, We fly the American Flag, we do not dip our flag to anyone or any country. There is no flag to be flown above the American Flag except during church service onboard a US Naval Vessel. So if you cannot deal with our laws, our customs, our traditions, to damn bad,
To be a flag shirt, it would have to have been a US Flag first then sewn into a shirt, which means the 50 stars on blue field etc.
