Super Committee Fails/No Deal In Place/Time Expires

The only damn either side gives is related to what is in it for them, forget about the country.

Nobody in DC, the POTUS, the R's, or the D's, NOBODY is willing to put the country ahead of their party or their next reelection campaign.

jf1acai wrote: The only damn either side gives is related to what is in it for them, forget about the country.

This goes all the way down to the voters. Not to call out anyone specifically but the tone from Ladyjazzer's posts echo the same sentiment as long as I win fawk eveyone else.

...and Viking, and Outdoor, and SS109, and ..... Pulllleze...

NEITHER party deserves to serve this country....KICK THEM ALL OUT, do no vote R or D.....find an alternative and vote them IN.

I love these people who blame the politicians. The politicians are elected by the voters. Right now we have a situation where both sides are feeling pressure from the voters in their districts to not raise any taxes or decrease any benefits.
So we get what we have here, no budgets approved in years and no spending set on cruise control.
It is almost like a ship drifting off course but no one is willing to take the helm because they know they will be shot as soon as they raise their head by the other passengers.

We might as well limit Congress and Senate to a month in DC since they don't do anything while they are here.

FredHayek wrote: lol And Obama leads from behind again, only coming out of his mole hole after everything has gone down in flames. "Told you so"

He says that Congress didn't want him there. Welll, a real Chief Executive doesn't care what they say and he takes command.

There was nothing to take command of. They're separate branches of government.

Do you really think Obama going in and saying, "You guys need to get this done" would have made any difference. Half of the super committee was Republican. They don't listen to Obama.

If he had gone in, you guys would be complaining about him interfering where he wasn't wanted.

The "Super Committee" was doomed from the start. It was just a "kick the can down the road" gesture.

LadyJazzer wrote: ...and Viking, and Outdoor, and SS109, and ..... Pulllleze...

you are correct. Like I said I didn't want to call out anyone specific your post are the most vocal on this board and I used them as an example.

Unless the D's back down on social programs and the R's back down on military spending we are going to end up like Greece.

The all or nothing for the party is going to break this country.

1) Social Security is not adding ANYTHING to the "deficit"... It's good for approximately 20 years... That dog won't hunt.
2) Medicare is not the problem; it's the cost of the delivery system. Get the ever-escalating cost of delivering health-care under control, and the for-profit hospital industry, and the problem gets under control very quickly... (The phrase "negotiating prescription drug costs" should ring a bell...But no, we couldn't possibly allow the government to do that...) That was part of what the "Affordable Health Care Act" was supposed to address; but of course, they ended up compromising much of what could have been saved in order to get the usual GOP obstructionists to vote for it. Stop the slimebags like Rick Scott and his company from ripping off $Millions in fraudulent billing scams from the Government, and the problems start getting manageable.
3) Heating subsidies for the poor and elderly? How about that? We can let the bastards freeze in the dark. It's their own fault for getting old and poor, right?

And the military is crying because they need $700 Billion a year to be prepared to fight a war with Russia, which doesn't exist any more...

And the righties are crying because they might have to ask the 1%'ers to pay a couple more points on the millions above the first million?...and they can't because they let some little twit with a Napoleon complex get them to sign a "pledge"? If their pledge supercedes their responsibility to do what's best for the country, then they don't deserve to be in office... This fantasy that anyone who is part of the 1%'ers is a "job creator" is the most laughable thing I've heard all year.

You're right--the "all or nothing for the party" IS going to break this country.

You're right Fred. The politicians just reflect us. If we want better politicians we need to be better citizens. If you want politicians that act like grown ups then we need to do so as well.

A little over 50% of voting-age Americans turn out for presidential elections. Only 38% during non-presidential years.

It's one of the lowest voter participating numbers in the world.

http://www.accuratedemocracy.com/d_datac.htm

(But we're #1 in the murder rate!)

http://www.accuratedemocracy.com/d_stats.htm