'Company Policy: We are not hiring until Obama is gone'

25 Nov 2011 14:02 #21 by ScienceChic
You know, you throw that phrase "You just lost a lot of my respect" around a lot. It's lost its power. If you can dump respect for people that quickly, who you previously claim to respect and say are great , just for having an opinion, then obviously you give respect too easily in the first place, or it doesn't mean s*** to you at all. I posted the facts about Perry earlier, and you ignored those too.

And yet again, you avoid EVERYTHING I posted about Huntsman. You ask for his jobs plan, I give it to you, you say nothing. rofllol You must be terrified that he'd actually make a better conservative candidate than your boy Perry. He sure has a better track record, better experience, and better plans. Instead of attacking me, why not address the information I gave you that you asked for?

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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25 Nov 2011 14:10 #22 by The Boss
That's so weird, the signs on my trucks say we are not hiring until the national debt is paid off, but you are free to fill out an application and wait, anyone hired will get paid 20x min wage at that time (and they will be good times).

I am curious how this guy kept it all together as the govt was increasing in size over the last 4 presidents and what about Obama shrinking the size of federal spending made him react this way. Is he holding out for more fed spending?

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25 Nov 2011 14:17 #23 by archer

The Viking wrote: :rofl rofllol I knew you wouldn't and cuoldn't answer it. Kate to the rescue. You just repeat things and don't know why you say them.


This, and the many posts that followed, are the reason I should know better than to answer anything you ask.....you don't want answers, you just want more fodder for your insults.

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25 Nov 2011 14:56 #24 by Soulshiner
"This is why I stay on FB. I hate the drama and having to lower my IQ to come over here."

Now THAT is funny.

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25 Nov 2011 15:20 #25 by ScienceChic

Soulshiner wrote: "This is why I stay on FB. I hate the drama and having to lower my IQ to come over here."

Now THAT is funny.

The very definition of irony

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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25 Nov 2011 17:42 #26 by LadyJazzer

Kate wrote:

The Viking wrote: It is called a response and I wasn't pissy you whiny liberal. You are the absolute stereotype of whiny thin skinned liberals. You guys have a good weekend. I am going back to talk to intelligent people.

Thanks for proving my point that you really aren't interested in debate, just echos of your viewpoints.

Stay classy, Viking.


Don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on your way out.

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25 Nov 2011 18:22 #27 by lionshead2010
If Only Obama Had Been This Guy
Carter at least did not substitute his priorities for the nation's.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... stpop_read

Which brings us to President Obama. Has a president ever arrived freer to choose his own course, to devise his own response to the economic crisis that greeted him in office? Candidate Obama landed with no explicit ideological commitments (at least that he cared to share). He was an icon of something else altogether, and his followers were ready to follow wherever he led.

Alas, a few days before his all-but-certain election, he glibly telegraphed what would prove the seminal mistake of his administration, telling Time magazine's Joe Klein that, right after fixing the financial crisis, "a new energy economy . . . That's going to be my No. 1 priority when I get into office."

The financial crisis would not be fixed, but Mr. Obama decided our sagging economy would just have to endure fights over the big ideas he was so determined to implement anyway, including health care, re-empowering labor, redressing income inequality, etc.

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26 Nov 2011 11:18 #28 by ScienceChic
Interesting lionshead. I agree that it seems that he had a free course, but I don't agree that he had much power to really do what he wanted. He is ineffective and I'm relatively sure that it's a combination of his lack of leadership skills/force of conviction along with the entrenched inertia by the rest of Congress wanting to maintain the status quo.

One of Obama's failings has been his energy policy - he hasn't gone far enough to make us more energy independent. We need a repaired grid that is more flexible and efficient for starters.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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26 Nov 2011 11:28 #29 by The Viking

Science Chic wrote: And yet again, you avoid EVERYTHING I posted about Huntsman. You ask for his jobs plan, I give it to you, you say nothing. rofllol You must be terrified that he'd actually make a better conservative candidate than your boy Perry. He sure has a better track record, better experience, and better plans. Instead of attacking me, why not address the information I gave you that you asked for?


Can't believe I have to do the educating on here for people who don't or won't look up the facts. You want reasons? Here....

Huntsman believes “health care is a right,” and Republicans believe the opposite. He believes climate change is real and endorsed a cap-and-trade plan to address this, and Republicans believe the opposite. He supported an individual mandate as part of health care reform, and Republicans believe the opposite. Huntsman wanted a bigger stimulus in 2009 with fewer tax cuts, expressed support for the Affordable Care Act, and has endorsed civil unions, TARP, and a pathway to citizenship for immigrants who entered the country illegally. Republicans are on the opposite side of all of these issues.

Oh, and he’s also a former member of the Obama administration who called President Obama a “remarkable leader.”

Other than his views on taxes, many are wondering why he is not running as a Democrat. He is a Liberal's dream

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26 Nov 2011 12:11 #30 by ScienceChic
And you're working with old information, or misrepresentation. He may agree that climate change is real (which, by the way, most of the country does so you should catch up), but his energy plans are completely contrary to doing anything to mitigate it - it's my one beef with the man. He plans to limit the EPA's regulations and charge full steam ahead drilling and mining us into oblivion.

http://www.jon2012.com/index.php/hpress ... stone_pipe
Jon Huntsman Statement On The Obama Administration’s Misguided Keystone Pipeline Decision
Hpress Staff
November 10, 2011

http://www.jon2012.com/index.php/hpress ... icy_speech
Transcript and Video of Governor Huntsman’s Energy Policy Speech
Hpress Staff
November 1, 2011

Ladies and gentlemen, for the sake of America’s economic and national security, we must unshackle ourselves from the scourge of foreign oil. So how do we do that? There are three basic steps that need to be taken.

So number one, we must increase domestic production.

Oil is a plentiful resource across America. From the Gulf of Mexico to Alaska, our country has abundant untapped resources. My administration will stand behind the Keystone pipeline, creating more than 100,000 American jobs while reducing our dependence on overseas imports. Hydraulic fracturing is also an opportunity to expand our domestic energy production.

Coal, while viewed with hostility by some, is one of America’s most abundant energy resources and the mainstay of many communities. This summer, in fact, we will likely see blackouts as a result of the administration’s assault on coal, which will take 8% of U.S. generating capacity offline.

On my first day in office, I will take three immediate steps to launch a sea change in energy policy. I will direct my administration to clarify rules that ensure the safe and rapid expansion of offshore drilling and fracking. I will move to open our fuel distribution network to all forms of energy, biofuels, natural gas and electricity. I will systemically begin to eliminate every subsidy for energy companies, whether it be oil, natural gas, wind or solar. Under my presidency, the United States will get out of the subsidy business. And if necessary, I will use my executive authority to act unilaterally.

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Healthcare:
http://jon2012.com/jon
In 2008, Jon spearheaded and passed comprehensive, market-based health care reform. While other states relied on government control and individual mandates, Jon delivered reforms that give consumers freedom to choose and negotiate their own coverage in a competitive marketplace.

http://www.issues2000.org/2012/Jon_Hunt ... h_Care.htm
Jon Huntsman on Health Care

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2011/0 ... itlements/
Jon Huntsman's Bold Plan for Health Care Reform (but not Entitlements)

Though its four sections are titled Tax Reform, Regulatory Reform, Energy Independence, and Free Trade, the plan contains significant health policy reforms that would dramatically improve the (shrinking) private-sector portion of our health-care system. Most importantly, it echoes the Simpson-Bowles “Zero Plan” for tax reform, from President Obama’s deficit commission, by eliminating “all deductions and credits in favor of lower marginal [tax] rates.”

My discussion of Huntsman’s proposals would not be complete without mentioning that, yes, he favors repealing “President Obama’s unconstitutional and unaffordable health care plan.”

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Plus, he's anti-abortion - how exactly does that make him like a Democrat? Oh wait, he doesn't oppose gay marriage and is pro-2nd Amendment. It would behoove you to take a closer look at the man and his record - he lines up better than any other with your beliefs as well Viking, except for acknowledging that climate change is real, which you'll figure out someday yourself. :biggrin: If you want a real chance at beating Obama, he's the guy you should support - no Independent is going to vote for Perry, or Cain, maybe Newt, but not enough to topple an incumbent.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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