Some of BO's biggest backers

03 Dec 2011 11:09 #11 by LadyJazzer
Should we count Scooter Libbey? Convicted but released for "time served" by Bush because it was too tough on the poor baby.

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03 Dec 2011 13:53 #12 by Reverend Revelant

LadyJazzer wrote: Yes, and Jack Abramoff just got released...

...and someday, Randy “Duke” Cunningham will finish his 8-year sentence...

... and I think Bob Ney has finished his sentence for conspiracy, graft, corruption, making false statements to federal law enforcement

... and David Safavian - former head of the Office of Federal Procurement Policy at the Office of Management and Budget should be done with his sentence...

Don't you love it when these guys find "redemption"....


And the points you made change what about Obama and his supporters (the topic of this thread)? If you had to think for yourself instead of resorting to a constant barrage of logical fallacies, I think your head would explode.

Description of Fallacies

In order to understand what a fallacy is, one must understand what an argument is. Very briefly, an argument consists of one or more premises and one conclusion. A premise is a statement (a sentence that is either true or false) that is offered in support of the claim being made, which is the conclusion (which is also a sentence that is either true or false).

There are two main types of arguments: deductive and inductive. A deductive argument is an argument such that the premises provide (or appear to provide) complete support for the conclusion. An inductive argument is an argument such that the premises provide (or appear to provide) some degree of support (but less than complete support) for the conclusion. If the premises actually provide the required degree of support for the conclusion, then the argument is a good one. A good deductive argument is known as a valid argument and is such that if all its premises are true, then its conclusion must be true. If all the argument is valid and actually has all true premises, then it is known as a sound argument. If it is invalid or has one or more false premises, it will be unsound. A good inductive argument is known as a strong (or "cogent") inductive argument. It is such that if the premises are true, the conclusion is likely to be true.

A fallacy is, very generally, an error in reasoning. This differs from a factual error, which is simply being wrong about the facts. To be more specific, a fallacy is an "argument" in which the premises given for the conclusion do not provide the needed degree of support. A deductive fallacy is a deductive argument that is invalid (it is such that it could have all true premises and still have a false conclusion). An inductive fallacy is less formal than a deductive fallacy. They are simply "arguments" which appear to be inductive arguments, but the premises do not provided enough support for the conclusion. In such cases, even if the premises were true, the conclusion would not be more likely to be true.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/


Go learn something.

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03 Dec 2011 14:07 #13 by Soulshiner
Tom DeLay...


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03 Dec 2011 14:28 #14 by Reverend Revelant

Soulshiner wrote: Tom DeLay...


This link would probably be of use to you too!

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/

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03 Dec 2011 14:38 #15 by Blazer Bob
WOW, you mean he is one of BO's biggest backers? Who knew?

Soulshiner wrote: Tom DeLay...

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03 Dec 2011 15:20 #16 by ScienceChic

posteryoyo wrote: (the new TimeWarner285AOLHuffFox told me to).

Thanks for dragging 285 down there in the gutter with the rest of that posteryoyo! :biggrin:

You're right though, we keep rewarding those who raise the most money so we deserve what we get. :faint:

How do we get to know a candidate if not through relentless TV ads that cost money? Social media? Word of mouth/massive volunteer efforts?

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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