what is Gingrich's fascination with poor children?

08 Dec 2011 08:46 #11 by LadyJazzer
But "household chores" is not the topic of discussion....is it. It's about blanket-statements that all children whose parents get welfare payments should be put to work doing labor for something that is no fault of theirs.

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08 Dec 2011 11:57 #12 by PrintSmith
You're right LJ, it is the parents who are on welfare who should be cleaning the toilets in the public schools in exchange for the charitable subsidy the citizens provide for them. Giving back as it were, a hand up instead of a hand out - right? Doing something that benefits the public in exchange for the public support of their family.

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08 Dec 2011 12:10 #13 by Kate

PrintSmith wrote: You're right LJ, it is the parents who are on welfare who should be cleaning the toilets in the public schools in exchange for the charitable subsidy the citizens provide for them. Giving back as it were, a hand up instead of a hand out - right? Doing something that benefits the public in exchange for the public support of their family.

Seriously? You're once again scraping the bottom of the barrel in your attempt to spin an issue upon which you've taken a hard line stance, but then, that is your modus operandi.

Educating the public in general raises the level and quality of life for all. An uneducated population would bring us all down to the level of serfdom, but then, I'm sure you already knew this argument. You just decided to take the conservative partisan stance against it.

I look forward to reading your continued rationalization of your erroneous argument.

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08 Dec 2011 12:14 #14 by AspenValley

Kate wrote:
I look forward to reading your continued rationalization of your erroneous argument.


You do? I'd rather go read the phone book cover to cover.

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08 Dec 2011 12:19 #15 by Kate

AspenValley wrote:

Kate wrote:
I look forward to reading your continued rationalization of your erroneous argument.


You do? I'd rather go read the phone book cover to cover.

Okay. I lied.

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08 Dec 2011 12:19 #16 by LadyJazzer
No doubt the wise words of that Founding Father, John Birch....

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08 Dec 2011 12:20 #17 by Kate

LadyJazzer wrote: No doubt the wise words of that Founding Father, John Birch....

I believe it was John Quincy Adams.....

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08 Dec 2011 12:20 #18 by LadyJazzer
Dang... My bad...

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08 Dec 2011 13:03 #19 by PrintSmith

Kate wrote:

PrintSmith wrote: You're right LJ, it is the parents who are on welfare who should be cleaning the toilets in the public schools in exchange for the charitable subsidy the citizens provide for them. Giving back as it were, a hand up instead of a hand out - right? Doing something that benefits the public in exchange for the public support of their family.

Seriously? You're once again scraping the bottom of the barrel in your attempt to spin an issue upon which you've taken a hard line stance, but then, that is your modus operandi.

Educating the public in general raises the level and quality of life for all. An uneducated population would bring us all down to the level of serfdom, but then, I'm sure you already knew this argument. You just decided to take the conservative partisan stance against it.

I look forward to reading your continued rationalization of your erroneous argument.

I agree that education in general raises the quality of life for all - but those families who receive charity subsidies above and beyond simply the education of their children at the expense of the public could, and should, do something that helps lower their other public expense burdens. When my mother and her siblings were going to Holy Family my grandmother cleaned the school, scrubbed the toilets, cleaned the church, did the linens - all to help pay for their tuition to the school. Why is it such a stretch to think that those families who in addition to receiving the benefit of having their children educated at public expense are receiving additional public grants of charity should not be helping us reduce the cost of government in other areas? Why is it such a horrible thing to ask that they work part time to replace the night janitorial staff at the school to save us the expense of that public employee so that we can keep more of the fruits of our own labor, or at the very least have more money available for public charity subsidies?

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