Feds: Ban all portable electronic devices in cars!

13 Dec 2011 12:56 #1 by BearMtnHIB
Wondering what the next step is in the government controlling our lives? It may very well be the banning of all portable electronic devices in all vehicles.

Yes- the "Obama approved" Federal Government wants to take that cell phone texting ban to a whole new level- and some are saying that the NTSB has worded the new language so broadly that it could virtually result in the eventual banning of all car stereo's, cell phones and any other electronic portable device.

So the next time you think "if it saves one life it must be worth it"- remember- the government never stops- it always takes the next step- and then the next- until they make all the choices for you, it's for your own good ya know!

Welcome to the new America- where the government makes all your choices for you......Big brother will take good care of you!

The National Transportation Safety Board on Tuesday recommended a nationwide ban on portable electronic devices in cars.

The move by the transportation regulator eschews its previous piecemeal approach aimed at convincing states to enact laws barring texting and other forms of cellphone use in cars. It is likely to set off a battle in Congress and on K Street and intensify a nationwide debate on what drivers should and should not be able to do while driving.


http://thehill.com/blogs/transportation-report/automobiles/199057-ntsb-wants-nationwide-ban-on-cell-phone-use-in-cars

Oh well- what's one more 1000 page regulation gonna hurt?

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13 Dec 2011 13:02 #2 by AspenValley
Yacking on a cellphone while driving is really, really dumb.

But so is this proposal.

I doubt it will pass, though.

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13 Dec 2011 13:13 #3 by FredHayek
Texting has been illegal in Colorado for over a year and the number of tickets issued is very small.
Couldn't you just charge texters etc, with an already passed law like distracted driving?
And that would cover the makeup applicators and food eaters, etc.

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13 Dec 2011 13:17 #4 by The Viking

FredHayek wrote: Texting has been illegal in Colorado for over a year and the number of tickets issued is very small.
Couldn't you just charge texters etc, with an already passed law like distracted driving?
And that would cover the makeup applicators and food eaters, etc.


Yes food is next, then any drinking, then changing stations on the radio, then crying babies, then talking altogether. Hitler won't be happy until he controls every part of our lives!

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13 Dec 2011 13:22 #5 by cydl
The best part is how will it be enforced? We supposedly have a law in place now about using cell phones/texting but that doesn't seem to stop anyone. I just saw an article somewhere the other day (don't remember where - sorry) that it's virtually unenforceable. Maybe the next step is to require some device like OnStar so that they can listen in to what we're doing in the car. Or maybe a camera. Makes me want to get an old 1960's beater from a salvage yard - no flight recorder, no computer, no worries!

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13 Dec 2011 13:26 #6 by The Viking

cydl wrote: The best part is how will it be enforced? We supposedly have a law in place now about using cell phones/texting but that doesn't seem to stop anyone. I just saw an article somewhere the other day (don't remember where - sorry) that it's virtually unenforceable. Maybe the next step is to require some device like OnStar so that they can listen in to what we're doing in the car. Or maybe a camera. Makes me want to get an old 1960's beater from a salvage yard - no flight recorder, no computer, no worries!


Not only unenforcable but it has made driving less safe. People are still texting but now they are making sure they hold it lower than eye level and many times on their lap so people don't see it and they won't get a ticket. So now with the new law people are taking their eyes off the road for longer. People don't think when they make these laws.

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13 Dec 2011 13:27 #7 by ScienceChic
http://www.iihs.org/news/rss/pr092810.html
News Release | September 28, 2010
Texting bans don't reduce crashes; effects are slight crash increases

It's illegal to text while driving in most US states. Yet a new study by researchers at the Highway Loss Data Institute (HLDI) finds no reductions in crashes after laws take effect that ban texting by all drivers. In fact, such bans are associated with a slight increase in the frequency of insurance claims filed under collision coverage for damage to vehicles in crashes. This finding is based on comparisons of claims in 4 states before and after texting ban, compared with patterns of claims in nearby states.

The new findings, released today at the annual meeting of the Governors Highway Safety Association, are consistent with those of a previous HLDI study, which found that banning hand-held phone use while driving doesn't cut crashes. HLDI is an affiliate of the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

"They're focusing on a single manifestation of distracted driving and banning it. This ignores the endless sources of distraction and relies on banning one source or another to solve the whole problem." "The point of texting bans is to reduce crashes, and by this essential measure the laws are ineffective," Lund points out.

Find some other way to solve the problem, just telling people they aren't allowed doesn't create compliance, and actually makes it worse b/c they hide their phones now and are even less focused on the road. Voice activated dialing needs to be improved, and bluetooth connections in cars made more efficient (I never connect my phone to my car's system cuz half the time it'll drop the call on me in spots where I have no problem otherwise). Ear buds work well for keeping hands on the wheel, but then you're reducing your ability to hear emergency vehicle alarms (and again, I have to pull my cell phone cover off every time in order to get the jack to plug in - not optimal).

Once they make cars that drive us around thanks to cloud computing, none of this will be an issue! :biggrin:

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13 Dec 2011 13:34 #8 by Reverend Revelant

The Viking wrote:

FredHayek wrote: Texting has been illegal in Colorado for over a year and the number of tickets issued is very small.
Couldn't you just charge texters etc, with an already passed law like distracted driving?
And that would cover the makeup applicators and food eaters, etc.


Yes food is next, then any drinking, then changing stations on the radio, then crying babies, then talking altogether. Hitler won't be happy until he controls every part of our lives!


Hey... who's this Hitler you were talking about... can you name names?

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13 Dec 2011 13:35 #9 by The Viking

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

The Viking wrote:

FredHayek wrote: Texting has been illegal in Colorado for over a year and the number of tickets issued is very small.
Couldn't you just charge texters etc, with an already passed law like distracted driving?
And that would cover the makeup applicators and food eaters, etc.


Yes food is next, then any drinking, then changing stations on the radio, then crying babies, then talking altogether. Hitler won't be happy until he controls every part of our lives!


Hey... who's this Hitler you were talking about... can you name names?


Damn auto correct! It was suppose to say Obama!

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13 Dec 2011 14:16 #10 by cydl

The Viking wrote:

cydl wrote: The best part is how will it be enforced? We supposedly have a law in place now about using cell phones/texting but that doesn't seem to stop anyone. I just saw an article somewhere the other day (don't remember where - sorry) that it's virtually unenforceable. Maybe the next step is to require some device like OnStar so that they can listen in to what we're doing in the car. Or maybe a camera. Makes me want to get an old 1960's beater from a salvage yard - no flight recorder, no computer, no worries!


Not only unenforcable but it has made driving less safe. People are still texting but now they are making sure they hold it lower than eye level and many times on their lap so people don't see it and they won't get a ticket. So now with the new law people are taking their eyes off the road for longer. People don't think when they make these laws.


Call me a Luddite, but what ever happened to just waiting until you get home to be on the phone? Okay, I'll settle for pulling over in a parking lot! What is so all-fired important that folks have to be talking on the phone while they're driving?

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