Feds: Ban all portable electronic devices in cars!

15 Dec 2011 17:22 #31 by Grady

Kate wrote:

Rockdoc Franz wrote: Obviously, the invasion of government into our personal lives all under the guise of protecting us is total BS. We do not need our neighbor to protect us from ourselves much less the US or local government. The sooner people accept that as a reality, the better off this world would be.

We have laws against drunk driving. Is that government intrusion? Driving while talking on a cell phone has been shown to be approximately as dangerous as drunk driving. Why shouldn't there be a law concerning this?

I think you are wrong on this. Texting yes talking no. Talking on a phone hands free can't be any more distracting than talking to the person sitting next to you, or than yelling at some fool talk show host blabbering on.

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15 Dec 2011 17:26 #32 by Kate

Grady wrote:

Kate wrote:

Rockdoc Franz wrote: Obviously, the invasion of government into our personal lives all under the guise of protecting us is total BS. We do not need our neighbor to protect us from ourselves much less the US or local government. The sooner people accept that as a reality, the better off this world would be.

We have laws against drunk driving. Is that government intrusion? Driving while talking on a cell phone has been shown to be approximately as dangerous as drunk driving. Why shouldn't there be a law concerning this?

I think you are wrong on this. Texting yes talking no. Talking on a phone hands free can't be any more distracting than talking to the person sitting next to you, or than yelling at some fool talk show host blabbering on.

Here's a five year old study that shows cell phone users are more dangerous than drunk drivers. Maybe cell phone usage has gotten better in the last five years and people are more adept at handling remote conversations while driving, but I doubt it.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-6090342-7.html

The study, published in the June 29 issue of Human Factors: The Journal of the Human Factors and Ergonomics Society, found that drivers talking on cell phones, either handheld or hands-free, are more likely to crash because they are distracted by conversation.

Using a driving simulator under four different conditions: with no distractions, using a handheld cell phone, talking on a hands-free cell phone, and while intoxicated to the 0.08 percent blood-alcohol level, 40 participants followed a simulated pace car that braked intermittently.

Researchers found that the drivers on cell phones drove more slowly, braked more slowly and were more likely to crash. In fact, the three participants who collided into the pace car were chatting away. None of the drunken drivers crashed.

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16 Dec 2011 16:18 #33 by PrintSmith
So let me see if I understand what I am being told. There is a 4% increase in the chance of having an accident (3 participants crashed during 80 simulations - 40 hand held and 40 hands free) and because the level of risk is raised by 4%, all usage of cell phones behind the wheel should be prohibited. Have I got that right?

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17 Dec 2011 11:01 #34 by Grady

Kate wrote:

Grady wrote:

Kate wrote:

Rockdoc Franz wrote: Obviously, the invasion of government into our personal lives all under the guise of protecting us is total BS. We do not need our neighbor to protect us from ourselves much less the US or local government. The sooner people accept that as a reality, the better off this world would be.

We have laws against drunk driving. Is that government intrusion? Driving while talking on a cell phone has been shown to be approximately as dangerous as drunk driving. Why shouldn't there be a law concerning this?

I think you are wrong on this. Texting yes talking no. Talking on a phone hands free can't be any more distracting than talking to the person sitting next to you, or than yelling at some fool talk show host blabbering on.

Here's a five year old study that shows cell phone users are more dangerous than drunk drivers. Maybe cell phone usage has gotten better in the last five years and people are more adept at handling remote conversations while driving, but I doubt it.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-6090342-7.html

The study, published in the June 29 issue of Human Factors: The Journal of the Human Factors and Ergonomics Society, found that drivers talking on cell phones, either handheld or hands-free, are more likely to crash because they are distracted by conversation.

Using a driving simulator under four different conditions: with no distractions, using a handheld cell phone, talking on a hands-free cell phone, and while intoxicated to the 0.08 percent blood-alcohol level, 40 participants followed a simulated pace car that braked intermittently.

Researchers found that the drivers on cell phones drove more slowly, braked more slowly and were more likely to crash. In fact, the three participants who collided into the pace car were chatting away. None of the drunken drivers crashed.

How many people 5 yrears ago used hands free compared with today? To be fair I still see people driving holding the cell to their ear, usually those folks are driving to slow.

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19 Dec 2011 15:14 #35 by Pony Soldier
Not me, I accelerate!

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19 Dec 2011 16:48 #36 by Grady

towermonkey wrote: Not me, I accelerate!

I don't text, with my Verizon WiFi hot spot I connect my laptop surf, post to 285Bound, send emails and watch YouTube videos. :lol: :lol: All while sort of staying in my and your lane.

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