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plaidvillain wrote: This pipeline is a complete sham. It will not create jobs, but will create a NET LOSS of jobs (those midwest refineries employees will be SOL...not to mention the transport industry employees currently moving this "crude"), it will have ZERO impact on our dependancy to mid-east oil, as it will be refined by non-American multi national corps for EXPORT. With pipelines, its not a matter of if there will be a spill...only a question of when and how devastating.
How do the conservatives here feel about the hundreds of eminent domain cases already filed in TX and NE? You guys ok with a foreign corp taking Americans' lands against their wishes?
This (snake)oil pipeline has many negative impacts, with almost no real positives. We're being sold a scam - do your research and don't buy into this lie.
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Proponents of the controversial Keystone XL pipeline project would like you to believe that, if approved, its construction will put hundreds of thousands of Americans to work. This is plainly untrue, according to a new report by the Cornell University Global Labor Institute.
The project will create no more than 2,500-4,650 temporary direct construction jobs for two years, according to TransCanada’s own data supplied to the State Department.
Based on TransCanada’s own figures provided to the Canadian government, operating costs for the U.S. section of their pipeline are minimal, and new permanent American jobs created would likely be as few as 50.
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the National Republican Congressional Committee want to make sure that no matter what your opinion of the decision, and no matter who you follow, that you won't be able to avoid their political spin. Both groups are paying for "Promoted Tweets" on various Twitter streams relating to the Keystone XL decision.
The truth remains that Keystone XL, if built, would be an export pipeline that would do nothing to increase American energy security, would actually increase the cost of oil in the Midwest , and which would create no more than, according to TransCanada itself , 6,000 temporary jobs on any given day. And that's questionable, since in the long run, this pipeline could kill more jobs than it creates [PDF of Cornell study] .
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plaidvillain wrote: This pipeline is a complete sham. It will not create jobs, but will create a NET LOSS of jobs (those midwest refineries employees will be SOL...not to mention the transport industry employees currently moving this "crude"), it will have ZERO impact on our dependancy to mid-east oil, as it will be refined by non-American multi national corps for EXPORT. With pipelines, its not a matter of if there will be a spill...only a question of when and how devastating.
How do the conservatives here feel about the hundreds of eminent domain cases already filed in TX and NE? You guys ok with a foreign corp taking Americans' lands against their wishes?
This (snake)oil pipeline has many negative impacts, with almost no real positives. We're being sold a scam - do your research and don't buy into this lie.
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Science Chic wrote: www.desmogblog.com/cornell-report-busts-...tone-xl-job-creation
Cornell Report Busts Myth of Keystone XL Job Creation
snip..to save unnecessary wasteful energy...
a new report by the Cornell University Global Labor Institute.
snip..to save unnecessary additional wasteful energy...
http://www.desmogblog.com/without-facts ... rt-twitter
snip..now we are wasting energy?
Keystone XL, if built, would be an export pipeline
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plaidvillain wrote: Hey znov, my assertions are based on the independent Cornell study and TransCanada's own statements. I'd have no problem admitting an error if you can provide facts to dispute my statements - but you can't - you just insult me...call me names...even though you know nothing about me. It's ok. I hold no grudge...
My grandfather used to say, "you know how dumb the average person is...well, half of 'em are dumber than that!" Thanks for proving him right.
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Union Support For Keystone XL Pipeline Project
General President William P. Hite and the United Association of Journeymen and Apprentices of the Plumbing and Pipe Fitting Industry of the United States and Canada lauded the U.S. Department of State decision to move forward with a next step for the Keystone XL pipeline permit.
The State Department expects to request public comment on a Supplemental Draft Environmental Impact Statement for the proposed pipeline. A 45-day public comment period would begin with a Federal Register notice expected to be issued in mid-April.
“The Keystone XL Pipeline will play a vital role in putting deserving people to work in this difficult economy. It will also help promote U.S. energy independence,” General President Hite said. “We are sincerely grateful for the State Department’s prudent decision to move this forward.
http://www.pipeline-news.com/feature/un ... ne-project
Obama’s Rejection of Keystone Pipeline Sets Up Campaign Battle
Jan. 19 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama’s rejection of TransCanada Corp.’s Keystone XL pipeline permit exposed a split in a core Democratic constituency and handed Republicans a new line of election-year attack.
Unions representing construction workers condemned the move while labor groups including the United Steel Workers, the United Auto Workers and the Service Employees International Union joined with environmental advocates in saying they support Obama’s decision. It also triggered swift criticism from congressional Republicans and the party’s presidential candidates.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-0 ... attle.html
Unions Furious at Obama for Killing Pipeline Jobs
Washington, D.C. (November 10, 2011) – Terry O’Sullivan, General President of LIUNA – the Laborers’ International Union of North America – made the following statement today in response to the U.S. State Department delay of the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline:
Environmentalists formed a circle around the White House and within days the Obama Administration chose to inflict a potentially fatal delay to a project that is not just a pipeline, but is a lifeline for thousands of desperate working men and women. The Administration chose to support environmentalists over jobs – job-killers win, American workers lose.
http://nation.foxnews.com/keystone-pipe ... z1juqlkstg
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plaidvillain wrote: Hey znov, my assertions are based on the independent Cornell study and TransCanada's own statements. I'd have no problem admitting an error if you can provide facts to dispute my statements - but you can't - you just insult me...call me names...even though you know nothing about me. It's ok. I hold no grudge...
My grandfather used to say, "you know how dumb the average person is...well, half of 'em are dumber than that!" Thanks for proving him right.
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