The 1% income tripled, the 99% gained only 62%

20 Dec 2011 16:51 #21 by PrintSmith
No, they aren't doing it alone - they are doing it in conjunction with those that vote for their living. You are right, however, "someone" is paying for that political profit of holding onto, and gathering more, power over the governed. That someone happens to be all of us as our liberty slowly is devoured by a government that fancies itself as possessing plenary sovereignty to do whatever it wishes to do, whenever it wishes to do it, however it wishes to do it under the pretense of "taking care of those in need", "providing safety nets", or "ensuring that everyone has access" to the services and goods of others.

There is not a single problem facing this nation that the roots of which cannot be traced back to the federal government striving to become endowed with plenary sovereignty. Not a single one. The federal government of this union of states is the only entity with the power, enumerated or seized, to "rig the game". Thus, if the game is rigged, and you and I will not disagree that it is, then there is only one entity that is responsible for it being rigged. Companies have not the power or authority to rig the game for themselves, that power and authority belong solely to the entities which govern us. They can, and have, rigged the game in pursuit of political power and profit; and are the only entity capable of doing so to satiate their own corrupt desires.

No financial company has the power or authority to socialize its losses while privatizing its gains. No oil company has the power or authority to limit its liability. No State in this union retains the power to issue its own sovereign currency in the wake of the mishandling of the common one. No, AV, a belief that the general government alone is responsible for rigging the game is neither dishonest nor what perpetuates our current problems; these belong instead to those who disavow that belief. The damage that is done by corruption in the absence of power is limited, the amount of damage done by corruption when plenary power is possessed in virtually unlimited. It is not the companies which corrupt the government, it is the corruption in our government which infects all that it touches.

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20 Dec 2011 17:07 #22 by LadyJazzer
Wow.. Just wow....

You're so far out there, I don't think you'll ever return to the Mother Ship...

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20 Dec 2011 17:18 #23 by Reverend Revelant

PrintSmith wrote: No, they aren't doing it alone - they are doing it in conjunction with those that vote for their living. You are right, however, "someone" is paying for that political profit of holding onto, and gathering more, power over the governed. That someone happens to be all of us as our liberty slowly is devoured by a government that fancies itself as possessing plenary sovereignty to do whatever it wishes to do, whenever it wishes to do it, however it wishes to do it under the pretense of "taking care of those in need", "providing safety nets", or "ensuring that everyone has access" to the services and goods of others.

There is not a single problem facing this nation that the roots of which cannot be traced back to the federal government striving to become endowed with plenary sovereignty. Not a single one. The federal government of this union of states is the only entity with the power, enumerated or seized, to "rig the game". Thus, if the game is rigged, and you and I will not disagree that it is, then there is only one entity that is responsible for it being rigged. Companies have not the power or authority to rig the game for themselves, that power and authority belong solely to the entities which govern us. They can, and have, rigged the game in pursuit of political power and profit; and are the only entity capable of doing so to satiate their own corrupt desires.

No financial company has the power or authority to socialize its losses while privatizing its gains. No oil company has the power or authority to limit its liability. No State in this union retains the power to issue its own sovereign currency in the wake of the mishandling of the common one. No, AV, a belief that the general government alone is responsible for rigging the game is neither dishonest nor what perpetuates our current problems; these belong instead to those who disavow that belief. The damage that is done by corruption in the absence of power is limited, the amount of damage done by corruption when plenary power is possessed in virtually unlimited. It is not the companies which corrupt the government, it is the corruption in our government which infects all that it touches.


Sorry Printsmith... if you can't see the unholy alliance between crony capitalist and the Political Class (tm), then you are either more stupid then most of those Occupy Wall Street idiots who just so happen to have stumbled on one or two issues which actually have merit, or you are spokes-mouth for crony capitalists... or just dishonest. One doesn't exist without the other, it's a comme ci, comme ça relationship and it falls apart as soon as one side or the other stops cooperating. It's not rocket science, just simple thermodynamics. (wow... Science Chic will love me for managing to get in a pointy-head sort of science reference).

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20 Dec 2011 17:25 #24 by AspenValley

PrintSmith wrote: It is not the companies which corrupt the government, it is the corruption in our government which infects all that it touches.


Bullsh**.

Money is what corrupts.

Always.

If there is a group of people with enough money to essentially buy the government, they will.

And they did.

Almost everyone here on both sides of the aisle have figured it out except you.

There's not a damned thing you can do about it, either, no matter how many unnecessary ten dollar words and soaring rhetoric you throw out there trying to deny it.

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20 Dec 2011 17:32 #25 by Blazer Bob
I think those of you throwing rocks at PS are having reading comprehension problems. However he can speak for himself, how about it PS?

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20 Dec 2011 17:33 #26 by LadyJazzer
NO, he's having comprehension problems of his own... No help from us...

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20 Dec 2011 17:39 #27 by Martin Ent Inc
Still the 99% are SLACKERS.

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20 Dec 2011 17:41 #28 by Reverend Revelant

AspenValley wrote:

PrintSmith wrote: It is not the companies which corrupt the government, it is the corruption in our government which infects all that it touches.


Bullsh**.

Money is what corrupts.

Always.

If there is a group of people with enough money to essentially buy the government, they will.

And they did.

Almost everyone here on both sides of the aisle have figured it out except you.

There's not a damned thing you can do about it, either, no matter how many unnecessary ten dollar words and soaring rhetoric you throw out there trying to deny it.


And for the right price our Political Class will sell them the best government money can buy. Printsmith... you don't even have an argument to stand on. How many links to stories do you want showing you the bedfellow arrangements that the Political Class and crony business has? It's a non-partisan-multinational-global-wide spider web of crooks feeding off each other. And it's not one side or the other pulling the strings. It's a mutual admiration society. All you ever offer is pretty words, but no proof, while daily we see the effect and results of these political-business entanglements.

They are taking the country right out from under you and your blind as a fk*n bat. Or implicated.

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20 Dec 2011 17:43 #29 by Reverend Revelant

neptunechimney wrote: I think those of you throwing rocks at PS are having reading comprehension problems. However he can speak for himself, how about it PS?


So... it's throwing rock. When you don't agree with something on 285 Bound.. what do you call it... a difference of opinion I suspect. Stop with the stupid rhetoric... you look partisan and stupid. (Or was that what you were trying to do?)

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20 Dec 2011 17:49 #30 by LadyJazzer

Martin Ent Inc wrote: Still the 99% are SLACKERS.


That's crap and you know it.

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