AspenValley wrote: chickaree, I'm sorry this happened. It seems like people are getting so politically polarized these days that they are losing all perspective on what is really important in life. I'd never throw away a good friend for Newt, that's for sure!
Wasn't that a clever partisan slam on Newt... no... not really... sort of like cellophane... transparent as anything... but I hope it made you feel better.
In the case of Newt, it's not political, it's personal. I'd sooner lose a friend over Pee Wee Herman.
AspenValley wrote: chickaree, I'm sorry this happened. It seems like people are getting so politically polarized these days that they are losing all perspective on what is really important in life. I'd never throw away a good friend for Newt, that's for sure!
Wasn't that a clever partisan slam on Newt... no... not really... sort of like cellophane... transparent as anything... but I hope it made you feel better.
In the case of Newt, it's not political, it's personal. I'd sooner lose a friend over Pee Wee Herman.
Isn't the saying "Don't talk religion or politics"?
I've never been in a heated discussion or lost a friend because of politics, but my best friend and I have butted heads over religion. So, I learned just not to talk specifics about religion with her (it was over evolution...she believes God put us here as we are and nothing and no one on Earth has evolved...I believe God gave humans the brains to evolve and other things the ability to adjust based on environment, etc.)
I think conversations would be pretty boring if we only had them on subjects we can all agree on......I'll admit that when I talk to some friends/family, I will carefully measure what I say so as not to rock the boat and start an argument, but I won't avoid the subject, just approach it carefully, always looking for areas of agreement that can offset those areas of disagreement. That seems to work in personal conversations, does not work at all on 285Bound.
archer wrote: I think conversations would be pretty boring if we only had them on subjects we can all agree on......I'll admit that when I talk to some friends/family, I will carefully measure what I say so as not to rock the boat and start an argument, but I won't avoid the subject, just approach it carefully, always looking for areas of agreement that can offset those areas of disagreement. That seems to work in personal conversations, does not work at all on 285Bound.
I say what I want. Saves a lot of time. Gets rid of a lot of whimpy hanger-ons too. I usually end up with real friends.
As far as the "don't talk religion or politics", I think that refers to the kind of boor who inflicts their opinions on a group or individual who obviously doesn't want to discuss it.
I don't really support the "don't talk religion or politics" stance.
Our political and faith-based beliefs represent a significant part of who we are.....
Cutting those discussions out - cuts out a lot of what it means to be human.
You want to talk about either to me --- that's fine --- buckle your seatbelt.
...and shut off the damn cellphone, and turn off your I-Pad, because I have something to say.....
ComputerBreath wrote: Isn't the saying "Don't talk religion or politics"?
I've never been in a heated discussion or lost a friend because of politics, but my best friend and I have butted heads over religion. So, I learned just not to talk specifics about religion with her (it was over evolution...she believes God put us here as we are and nothing and no one on Earth has evolved...I believe God gave humans the brains to evolve and other things the ability to adjust based on environment, etc.)
This is the only comment I agree with 100%. Having quite a few years experience as a bartender, I've found that the "no religion or politics" rule is the best...especially if you already know where your friend stands.
I have a lot of liberal friends and family members...we know not to even bring the subjects up. As friends, we know there is no point in even going there...just like here, nobody's mind will be changed, but the moods most certainly will. There is so much more to life than subjects we can't do anything about.
I do talk politics with my more indy or conservatives friends and when we begin to disagree, I like the challenge of changing the subject as quickly as possible..it's not that hard. The best way is to compliment your friend on something completely unrelated and you both get that warm fuzzy feeling again and move on.
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
Subjects of politics, religion, philosophy, relationships, and family should only be discussed with good humor whenever you are visiting with "acquaintances". There is no such thing as friendship with those who differ so greatly with you in these areas.