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Ron Paul accepts supremacists,and anti-Zionist support
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26 Dec 2011 18:20 #11
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Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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Obama has made many anti Israeli statements before he became President, especially as a Illinois state politician, but lets ignore those. Now he is sucking up to the Jewish vote.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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26 Dec 2011 18:22 #12
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I'd like to see those statements by Obama. I assume that you have links to the speeches and/or statements?FredHayek wrote: Obama has made many anti Israeli statements before he became President, especially as a Illinois state politician, but lets ignore those. Now he is sucking up to the Jewish vote.
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26 Dec 2011 19:01 #13
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Well guess what? I don't care if Obama wears a Iron Cross on a chain and has lampshades made out of Jewish flesh... that doesn't excuse Ron Paul for anything... does it? Evidently for you the answer would be yes.
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FredHayek wrote: Obama has made many anti Israeli statements before he became President, especially as a Illinois state politician, but lets ignore those. Now he is sucking up to the Jewish vote.
Well guess what? I don't care if Obama wears a Iron Cross on a chain and has lampshades made out of Jewish flesh... that doesn't excuse Ron Paul for anything... does it? Evidently for you the answer would be yes.
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27 Dec 2011 15:34 #14
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I don't suspect he has... since he didn't bother to back up his claims. I hate conservatives who make brain dead remarks like this. Some conservatives see all of politics as a World Wide News sort of sound bite... if it sounds stupid, then it must be true.
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Kate wrote:
I'd like to see those statements by Obama. I assume that you have links to the speeches and/or statements?FredHayek wrote: Obama has made many anti Israeli statements before he became President, especially as a Illinois state politician, but lets ignore those. Now he is sucking up to the Jewish vote.
I don't suspect he has... since he didn't bother to back up his claims. I hate conservatives who make brain dead remarks like this. Some conservatives see all of politics as a World Wide News sort of sound bite... if it sounds stupid, then it must be true.
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30 Dec 2011 10:55 #15
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"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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I found this intriguing. Is this the only reason why Paul has come as far as he has, and is as high in polls as he is? How did it come to be that his followers are embracing social media more so than any other candidate? Can this still unconventional popular support carry him far enough to be one of the final contenders for the nomination?
http://motherjones.com/politics/2007/12 ... s-ron-paul
The Apostles of Ron Paul
Meet the rabid fan base—techies, hippies, tax haters, and war protesters—who believe that only Ron Paul can save America from itself.
—By Josh Harkinson
January/February 2008 Issue
http://motherjones.com/politics/2007/12 ... s-ron-paul
The Apostles of Ron Paul
Meet the rabid fan base—techies, hippies, tax haters, and war protesters—who believe that only Ron Paul can save America from itself.
—By Josh Harkinson
January/February 2008 Issue
Their candidate, a 72-year-old obstetrician from Lake Jackson, Texas—land of duck hunters, ranchers, and oilmen—has improbably become an Internet sensation. He counts more Facebook and MySpace supporters than any Republican; more Google searches, YouTube subscribers, and website hits than any presidential candidate; and more Meetup members than the front-runners of both parties combined. In recent months he was sought out on the blog search engine Technorati more often than anyone except a Puerto Rican singer with a sex tape on the loose; his November 5 Internet "Money Bomb" event pulled in $4 million from more than 35,000 individual donors, a single-day online-fundraising record in a primary.
The truth is, Paul's revolution is a conservative one, by his own account—and thus all the more noteworthy for Democrats, who until now comfortably assumed that progressive bloggers, YouTubers, and ex-Deaniacs would give them, and only them, an edge online. As it turns out, nobody has more Internet buzz than a pro-gun, pro-life, antitax, and antiwar Republican.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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31 Dec 2011 17:58 #16
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I am not going to dredge them up, but you can see how Barack feels about Isreal by his latest call for them to return to their 1967 borders. It would be suicide for Israel to do so. Also wath the way he treated Israel's PM, leaving him wait while Obama ate dinner.
Ron Paul does think we show Israel too much favortism over other countries in the region.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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Kate wrote:
I'd like to see those statements by Obama. I assume that you have links to the speeches and/or statements?FredHayek wrote: Obama has made many anti Israeli statements before he became President, especially as a Illinois state politician, but lets ignore those. Now he is sucking up to the Jewish vote.
I am not going to dredge them up, but you can see how Barack feels about Isreal by his latest call for them to return to their 1967 borders. It would be suicide for Israel to do so. Also wath the way he treated Israel's PM, leaving him wait while Obama ate dinner.
Ron Paul does think we show Israel too much favortism over other countries in the region.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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31 Dec 2011 20:15 #17
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You aren't going to dredge them up, because you don't have them. There's a BIG difference in not agreeing with Israel on every single issue and being ANTI-ISRAEL. You don't have jack... Fred.
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FredHayek wrote:
Kate wrote:
I'd like to see those statements by Obama. I assume that you have links to the speeches and/or statements?FredHayek wrote: Obama has made many anti Israeli statements before he became President, especially as a Illinois state politician, but lets ignore those. Now he is sucking up to the Jewish vote.
I am not going to dredge them up, but you can see how Barack feels about Isreal by his latest call for them to return to their 1967 borders. It would be suicide for Israel to do so. Also wath the way he treated Israel's PM, leaving him wait while Obama ate dinner.
Ron Paul does think we show Israel too much favortism over other countries in the region.
You aren't going to dredge them up, because you don't have them. There's a BIG difference in not agreeing with Israel on every single issue and being ANTI-ISRAEL. You don't have jack... Fred.
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31 Dec 2011 23:28 #18
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Of course you're not going to "dredge them up" because they are lies and fabrications...
http://factcheck.org/2011/12/more-balon ... oo-debate/
Nice try, sparkie...But repeating the lie over and over again still doesn't make it true.
Romney Wrong on Obama and Israel
Romney wrongly accused President Obama of saying Israel must “go back” to 1967 borders. But that’s not true. Obama called for Israel to negotiate “mutually agreed swaps” of territory with those borders as the starting point.
Romney: This president decided he was going to try and negotiate for Israel by saying, lets go back to the ’67 borders. That’s not what Israel wanted to hear.
What Obama really said , in remarks at the State Department on May 19, 2011, was this:
Obama, May 19: So while the core issues of the conflict must be negotiated, the basis of those negotiations is clear: a viable Palestine, a secure Israel. . . . We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states.
So, Obama said the 1967 borders would be a basis for negotiations for new borders to be arrived at by making “swaps” of unspecified size. That’s much different from saying the 1967 borders would be reinstated.
http://factcheck.org/2011/12/more-balon ... oo-debate/
Nice try, sparkie...But repeating the lie over and over again still doesn't make it true.
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01 Jan 2012 08:33 #19
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Very funny. So which property do you expect the Palestinians to give up? How about Syria or Jordan? rofllol
It clearly shows Obama sets up impossible conditions. Want to see another great deadly migration like the Indian/Pakistan one? Israel gave back the Sinai penisula, almost 1/2 of their country in exchange for peace and didn't get it.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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LadyJazzer wrote: Of course you're not going to "dredge them up" because they are lies and fabrications...
Romney Wrong on Obama and Israel
Romney wrongly accused President Obama of saying Israel must “go back” to 1967 borders. But that’s not true. Obama called for Israel to negotiate “mutually agreed swaps” of territory with those borders as the starting point.
Romney: This president decided he was going to try and negotiate for Israel by saying, lets go back to the ’67 borders. That’s not what Israel wanted to hear.
What Obama really said , in remarks at the State Department on May 19, 2011, was this:
Obama, May 19: So while the core issues of the conflict must be negotiated, the basis of those negotiations is clear: a viable Palestine, a secure Israel. . . . We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states.
So, Obama said the 1967 borders would be a basis for negotiations for new borders to be arrived at by making “swaps” of unspecified size. That’s much different from saying the 1967 borders would be reinstated.
http://factcheck.org/2011/12/more-balon ... oo-debate/
Nice try, sparkie...But repeating the lie over and over again still doesn't make it true.
Very funny. So which property do you expect the Palestinians to give up? How about Syria or Jordan? rofllol
It clearly shows Obama sets up impossible conditions. Want to see another great deadly migration like the Indian/Pakistan one? Israel gave back the Sinai penisula, almost 1/2 of their country in exchange for peace and didn't get it.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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01 Jan 2012 08:38 #20
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It wasn't Obama that set up the "conditions"... The parties have already been negotiating the swaps for years... It's the hardliners, on BOTH sides that keep blocking the deal. Nice try to blame Obama for something he has no part of. The point is STILL that he DIDN'T SAY IT... Another right-wing lie busted by FactCheck...
But hey, keep repeating it. The right-wing sheeple will continue to swallow it...hook, line, and sinker....
But hey, keep repeating it. The right-wing sheeple will continue to swallow it...hook, line, and sinker....
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