Photo Traffic Tickets

20 Jan 2012 12:01 #11 by RCCL
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In the US, you can be convicted of no crime on the evidence of just one or a few photographs and video; at least... outside of a traffic court.

We would not allow murderers to be sentenced based off of a video of them killing someone with no evidence, without say... a body, or their DNA, something to prove their presence. You need some corroborating evidence.

Why this doesn't apply to traffic violations, I have no idea, but it should. I will never pay one of these tickets, I will fight them every time. They are a blatant disregard for judicial process and the burden of proof, let alone your right to face your accuser.

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20 Jan 2012 12:16 #12 by OmniScience
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RCCL wrote: In the US, you can be convicted of no crime on the evidence of just one or a few photographs and video; at least... outside of a traffic court.

We would not allow murderers to be sentenced based off of a video of them killing someone with no evidence, without say... a body, or their DNA, something to prove their presence. You need some corroborating evidence.

Why this doesn't apply to traffic violations, I have no idea, but it should. I will never pay one of these tickets, I will fight them every time. They are a blatant disregard for judicial process and the burden of proof, let alone your right to face your accuser.


Simple. It's all about the money. The traffic cameras are little more than cash cows that are operated under the guise of public safety.

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24 Jan 2012 16:26 #13 by CinnamonGirl
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Breaking: Denver Press release.




ORIGINAL: Photo Red Light Ordinance Amended

The fine section of the City and County of Denver’s Photo Red Light ordinance has been changed. Effective Friday, January 20, 2012, Denver’s Photo Red Light ordinance changed to reflect a tiered fine structure. Notice of violations that occurred prior to 12:01a.m. on January 20, 2012 will still carry the $75.00 fine. Violations that occurred after 12:01 a.m. on January 20, 2012 will be issued as follows;
The original $75.00 fine for all red light violations has been reduced to a $40.00 fine for vehicles that come to a complete stop but their front tires have crossed the white stop line. This $40.00 fine includes drivers required to stop before the stop line for a right turn on red. Drivers are free to turn right on red, but only after coming to a complete stop behind the stop line first. If the vehicle comes to a complete stop before making the right turn, but the front tires are past the stop line, the $40.00 fine will be issued.

The original Photo Red Light violation, Denver Revised Municipal Code 54-101-(3) (a) for running a red light will remain the same infraction of $75.00. A driver will be assessed the $75.00 fine if the vehicle’s rear two tires have completely crossed the stop line before stopping or if the vehicle continues through the intersection.

Citizens are reminded that they are still subject to pay the $75.00 dollar fine if the violation occurred prior to Friday, January 20, 2012.

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24 Jan 2012 16:46 #14 by Mary Scott
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Now people are going to have to know where their front tires are.

They are on a revenue hunt.

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24 Jan 2012 17:06 #15 by Grady
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Mary Scott wrote: Now people are going to have to know where their front tires are.

They are on a revenue hunt.

Denver only is trying to mitigate against the distaste and distrust of red light cameras before SB12-050 is brought before the state Senate.

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26 Jan 2012 04:59 #16 by CinnamonGirl
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http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/30 ... etail.html

Denver: 60 Percent Red Light Tickets For Stop Bar Violations

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22 Feb 2012 07:38 #17 by OmniScience
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Ban is not going to happen. Senate committee votes it down. The Cash Cows Continue........

http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/250766/346/Proposed-ban-of-Colo-traffic-cameras-fails-

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22 Feb 2012 07:43 #18 by FredHayek
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Not suprised to see it voted down. Counties need the revenue. It will give me more reason to not visit Denver. White bar violations? Let the other guy beat you to the crosswalk.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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22 Feb 2012 07:57 #19 by Nobody that matters
I can't believe all you scofflaws objecting to a simple law that protects other motorists as well as any pedestrians in the area. It's easy -

Don't hit the line, don't pay the fine.

they should put that on the side of all the RTD busses in Denver.

"Whatever you are, be a good one." ~ Abraham Lincoln

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22 Feb 2012 13:41 #20 by Pony Soldier
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OmniScience wrote: Ban is not going to happen. Senate committee votes it down. The Cash Cows Continue........

http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/250766/346/Proposed-ban-of-Colo-traffic-cameras-fails-


Time to vote the bums out!!!

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