Obama plays his Catholic allies for fools

It is the most transparently anti-Catholic maneuver by the federal government since the Blaine Amendment was proposed in 1875 — a measure designed to diminish public tolerance of Romanism, then regarded as foreign, authoritarian and illiberal.

On Jan. 20 — three days before the annual March for Life — the Obama administration announced its final decision that Catholic universities, hospitals and charities will be compelled to pay for (employees) health insurance that covers sterilization, contraceptives and abortifacients... the administration insisted that the University of Notre Dame and St. Mary’s Hospital be forced to pay for the privilege of violating their convictions. In the recent ­Hosanna-Tabor ruling, a unanimous Supreme Court reaffirmed a broad religious autonomy right rooted in the Constitution. Obama could have taken the decision as justification for retreat. The implications of Obama’s choice will take years to sort through.

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This may sound foreign or meaningless to you... you may not be involved, you may not work for a religious charity, a religious hospital system (like Adventist) or you may not teach or work at a religious university. But thousands of people do, and these workers are in tune with the religious sensibilities of the organizations who employ them. Now these organizations are being told that they have to go against their belief and be forced to carry health insurance that violates their spiritual ideology.

Not a big deal? It's a big deal if your beliefs are being assaulted. Tell me why you have no problem with this ruling?

Where is anyone being forced to avail themselves of these options...they just have to be made available, that's all. Since many Catholics DO believe in contreception. Why should they be denied coverage? Does an employer have the right to determine how you practice your religion?

It is a huge deal, I know many in the Catholic healthcare community who were big supporters of OB in 2008. Since this will not be implemented until August of 2013, I hope they are smart enough to help elect someone else before this takes effect.

archer wrote: Where is anyone being forced to avail themselves of these options...they just have to be made available, that's all. Since many Catholics DO believe in contreception. Why should they be denied coverage? Does an employer have the right to determine how you practice your religion?

Damn straight... if you work for a religious employer.

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote: It is the most transparently anti-Catholic maneuver by the federal government since the Blaine Amendment was proposed in 1875 — a measure designed to diminish public tolerance of Romanism, then regarded as foreign, authoritarian and illiberal.

On Jan. 20 — three days before the annual March for Life — the Obama administration announced its final decision that Catholic universities, hospitals and charities will be compelled to pay for (employees) health insurance that covers sterilization, contraceptives and abortifacients... the administration insisted that the University of Notre Dame and St. Mary’s Hospital be forced to pay for the privilege of violating their convictions. In the recent ­Hosanna-Tabor ruling, a unanimous Supreme Court reaffirmed a broad religious autonomy right rooted in the Constitution. Obama could have taken the decision as justification for retreat. The implications of Obama’s choice will take years to sort through.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... s_opinions

This may sound foreign or meaningless to you... you may not be involved, you may not work for a religious charity, a religious hospital system (like Adventist) or you may not teach or work at a religious university. But thousands of people do, and these workers are in tune with the religious sensibilities of the organizations who employ them. Now these organizations are being told that they have to go against their belief and be forced to carry health insurance that violates their spiritual ideology.

Not a big deal? It's a big deal if your beliefs are being assaulted. Tell me why you have no problem with this ruling?

Why you little f****t- When we were on Kaiser abortions were free, it doesn't mean we ran out and got one and I seriously doubt that most Catholics working at Nortre Dame are going to either.. Especially since it violates their spiritual ideology. I know for sure a few nuns there will apreciate the new benifit though..They're always getting pregnant-

archer wrote: Where is anyone being forced to avail themselves of these options...they just have to be made available, that's all. Since many Catholics DO believe in contreception. Why should they be denied coverage? Does an employer have the right to determine how you practice your religion?

And evidently you did NOT read the link to the article... or you would have already had the answer to your question... "Supreme Court: Discrimination laws do not protect certain employees of religious groups"

The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday for the first time that federal discrimination laws do not protect church employees who perform religious duties, a major church-state decision that recognizes religious groups’ constitutionally protected right to select their own leaders.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html

I hope that helps.

archer wrote: Where is anyone being forced to avail themselves of these options...they just have to be made available, that's all. Since many Catholics DO believe in contreception. Why should they be denied coverage? Does an employer have the right to determine how you practice your religion?

You beat me to it Archer....These birdbrains act like Obama is forcing mandatory abortions on them lol ....And he plans on abolishing fishing, Apple Pie and baseball too..

I'm so scared!

Why is working for a religious employer different from any other employer? If you work for Ford can you ne denied the right to drive a Toyota? If you work for a vegetarian restaurant do you have to give up meat? This is the USA not Afghanistan.

Vice Lord wrote:

archer wrote: Where is anyone being forced to avail themselves of these options...they just have to be made available, that's all. Since many Catholics DO believe in contreception. Why should they be denied coverage? Does an employer have the right to determine how you practice your religion?

You beat me to it Archer....These birdbrains act like Obama is forcing mandatory abortions on them lol ....And he plans on abolishing fishing, Apple Pie and baseball too..

I'm so scared!

No where in the article, nor in the two links I supplied does anyone say anything about Obama forcing anyone to get an abortion. You made that up. What these articles do address is the fact that a Catholic Hospital or University can be now forced to have birth control provisions in their health plans, which does go against their religious doctrine.

But of course you already knew this, you're just deflecting again.

archer wrote: Why is working for a religious employer different from any other employer? If you work for Ford can you ne denied the right to drive a Toyota? If you work for a vegetarian restaurant do you have to give up meat? This is the USA not Afghanistan.

You keep asking questions that have already been answered on this thread... go READ for once...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html