Pew study: 1 in 8 voter records flawed

16 Feb 2012 00:38 #1 by Blazer Bob
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/s ... 53083406/1


"WASHINGTON – More than 24 million voter-registration records in the United States— about one in eight — are inaccurate, out-of-date or duplicates. Nearly 2.8 million people are registered in two or more states, and perhaps 1.8 million registered voters are dead.

By Brian Ray, AP
Caucus voters fill out voter registration paperwork Jan. 3 so they can participate in the Republican presidential caucus at the University of Iowa Campus in Iowa City, Iowa.
Those estimates, from a report published today by the non-partisan Pew Center on the States, portray a largely paper-based system that is outmoded, expensive and error-prone.

"We have a ramshackle registration system in the U.S. It's a mess. It's expensive. There isn't central control over the process," said Lawrence Norden of the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University.

Experts say there's no evidence that the errors lead to fraud on Election Day. "The perception of the possibility of fraud drives hyper-partisan policymaking," said David Becker, director of Pew's election initiatives. But inactive voters do cost money. Inaccurate lists mean wasted money on mailings and extra paper ballots."

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16 Feb 2012 05:33 #2 by FredHayek
I like mail-in ballots but because of the messed up registrations, I don't think it is a good idea to send them out.

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16 Feb 2012 06:28 #3 by The Boss
for 99% of us the only opinion that matters is our own...so as long as your voting record is clear, there are no real issues.

Also, many people move, the don't run in to change their voting record asap, they have lives to lead, voting only comes every 1-4 years, the system constantly changes, which only makes it so more records are/appear flawed. Many people simply move, register in a new location and don't bother to tell the old location.

In stead of quoting flawed voting records, quote fraudulent voting. This kind of talk is why we have laws for everything, just cause it sounds like it might help a problem that does not really exist. Some people that are not that bright could easity mix up flawed voting records and flawed voting.

It is not about voting, it is about winning....even this study is about winning, put out there so that you think someone cares about voting.

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16 Feb 2012 06:32 #4 by The Boss
Oh and don't worry, look back to this post in a few years, you will get what you are asking for, complete electronic voting where you must use strict biometric ID and you vote will be recorded with your name in a computer forever. Then it will be there to be held against you and your family at any time....but we will save $ and pretend to reduce fraud.

BS that any major efforts are put out there to mess up the vote. A few people vote 2x and in the wrong place, likely very few, it does not swing major elections, could swing little primaries, because so few vote, but the result of fewer people voting should not increase the regs that discourage people from voting.

Perhaps if Americans and those on 285bound debated the actions of our leaders in stead of their marketing plans and promises we would see the vote does not matter, as they all tend to act the same.

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16 Feb 2012 06:41 #5 by TPP
Kinda agree, with you PCE, but if that ever happens that means, the illegals, the dead, the super-heroes, and those that vote 3-4 times, will stop voting, and the government can't have that... Just say'in...

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16 Feb 2012 07:33 #6 by FredHayek
My company has enough trouble keeping employee addresses up to date (people move a lot!), I can imagine it would be 100 times worse with voter rolls.

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16 Feb 2012 12:34 #7 by PrintSmith

popcorn eater wrote: Also, many people move, the don't run in to change their voting record asap, they have lives to lead, voting only comes every 1-4 years, the system constantly changes, which only makes it so more records are/appear flawed. Many people simply move, register in a new location and don't bother to tell the old location.

There is a means in place to address (pardon the pun) this issue right now which anyone who uses USPS business mail services is well aware of. NCOA - National Change of Address. Any list which is used to send business mail (what is commonly referred to as bulk mail, or junk mail) to a specific individual must be checked against this list to comply with USPS regulations. There is certainly no reason that the Secretaries of State could not do the same for the voter registration rolls prior to every election, is there? Could we not also require that every mail ballot sent out have to be also confirmed as delivered to the person to whom it is addressed? The IRS and the state revenue departments already make use of this service provided by the USPS, so why not require it for the clerks of the counties and the Secretaries of State when they mail out ballots for elections?

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16 Feb 2012 13:09 #8 by FredHayek

PrintSmith wrote:

popcorn eater wrote: Also, many people move, the don't run in to change their voting record asap, they have lives to lead, voting only comes every 1-4 years, the system constantly changes, which only makes it so more records are/appear flawed. Many people simply move, register in a new location and don't bother to tell the old location.

There is a means in place to address (pardon the pun) this issue right now which anyone who uses USPS business mail services is well aware of. NCOA - National Change of Address. Any list which is used to send business mail (what is commonly referred to as bulk mail, or junk mail) to a specific individual must be checked against this list to comply with USPS regulations. There is certainly no reason that the Secretaries of State could not do the same for the voter registration rolls prior to every election, is there? Could we not also require that every mail ballot sent out have to be also confirmed as delivered to the person to whom it is addressed? The IRS and the state revenue departments already make use of this service provided by the USPS, so why not require it for the clerks of the counties and the Secretaries of State when they mail out ballots for elections?


Maybe they don't want to fix this?

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