If your kid does not want to hike, he does not want to hike.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/1 ... &ir=Denver

I thought I smelled 285 bound as I was reading this.

popcorn eater wrote: www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/17/grand-...ref=denver&ir=Denver

I thought I smelled 285 bound as I was reading this.

Kid's a bigot.

Hiking 19 miles in the Grand Canyon in August is brutal. That place is like a reflecting oven.

I did a hike there once on a little used trail on Memorial Day and we all ran out of water and were drinking from a horse trough. We started the two other days of the three day hike around 2am in the dark to avoid the heat. And that was a Sierra Club organized hike. :bash

Susanne Clinton, a nurse in Flagstaff who evaluated the boys on Aug. 29, testified Thursday that the blisters were so bad at the end of the hike that they had turned into bleeding ulcers. The boy had to undergo treatment usually reserved for burn patients and couldn't wear shoes for weeks, she said.

Clinton also said the boys had severely chafed thighs because Carlson didn't let them wear underwear, and that the boys were dehydrated and had signs of heat stroke and heat exhaustion.

The criminal complaint said that one brother feared that another brother would fall to his death because Carlson forced him to walk on the edge of the trail even though he was cramping and falling down. Another brother said that when he fell, Carlson picked him up by the throat and threw him to the ground, and another said Carlson had slammed his face into a rock, the complaint said.

Grandpa sounds like a pr**k. Next time the kids might return the favor if he gets too close to the canyon edge.

I have witnessed healthy, men and women who were outfitted and supplied for Grand Canyon hikes require assistance to get out.

I would rather kayak or raft the river than hike down in there, way more fun (done it all)...and way safer (though I have come accross death scenes on the river down there).

This guy did not understand what he was doing. Most mountain hikers are saved by the fact that they go up 1st, no so in the Grand. It's a little like hiking off of skyline drive in VA, but with 100x more danger.

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

popcorn eater wrote: www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/17/grand-...ref=denver&ir=Denver

I thought I smelled 285 bound as I was reading this.

Kid's a bigot.

Oh and thanks GOPtwin, you made me laugh for a change.

popcorn eater wrote: I would rather kayak or raft the river than hike down in there, way more fun (done it all)...and way safer (though I have come accross death scenes on the river down there).

This guy did not understand what he was doing. Most mountain hikers are saved by the fact that they go up 1st, no so in the Grand. It's a little like hiking off of skyline drive in VA, but with 100x more danger.

I know what you mean if someone is just doing a dayhike to the bottom of the canyon. They have a huge hike back up, after it's already very hot if you do this in the summer.

We actually did a 3 day backpack. Surprisingly, the toughest day was the first day going down the little used Hermit trail, even though it was downhill. We just got a late start and it was very hot. That's were we drank from the horse troth filled with algae. At least we camped by a creek after that. The next day was a very long hike on the Tonto trail, but at least there were a couple of water stops.

The easiest hike was the uphill one to get out (on the Bright Angel Trail). Big uphill climb, but excellent trail and it was a much shorter hike than the others as I recall.

Hermit is a wicked fun rapid, like a roller coaster. Pretty easy, but still serious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmDqggwrxjQ

Update:

Man found guilty in Grand Canyon child abuse case

"An Arizona jury on Wednesday found Carlson guilty of three of six charges of child abuse stemming from that hike and another one on Aug. 15. He's scheduled to be sentenced June 1, but because the jury convicted him on the three lesser offenses, it was unclear if he could face up to life in prison."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/01/man-found-guilty-in-grand-canyon-child-abuse-case/