Cons, Oil, and the Lies

29 Feb 2012 16:37 #11 by lionshead2010
In an economy with unemployment numbers above 8% you would think we would welcome several thousand jobs....even if they were temporary. Either way, I'm just not buying the idea of this pipeline providing "as few as 50 permanent jobs." That is BS.

The Canadians are going to move this oil to market. Clearly it's easier and more affordable to bring the oil south than west. We should work with them and find ways to get that oil into the market. This oil will help to diversify the sources of oil....and that is what will keep prices down.

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29 Feb 2012 17:07 #12 by Mary Scott
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I don't understand what is wrong with even temporary jobs that are being paid for with private funds. Is it because it's foreign money? That should be good since it's putting new money into circulation in the U.S.

I doubt that it's because if permanent jobs happen to come along there won't be enough workers to fill them because everybody is busy working on temporary jobs. :thumbsup:

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29 Feb 2012 17:33 #13 by Rick
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Good points...we also have to be prepared for the ME to meltdown, which is likely to hapen. When there is turmoil in the ME, beyond what's already there, wouldn't we benefit from having this pipeline already built to help with shortages that normaly come from the ME? I just don't see a big downside.

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29 Feb 2012 17:34 - 29 Feb 2012 18:10 #14 by LOL
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Its not mainly about jobs or the price of gas. It is about securing a stable, stratergeric long term supply of oil from a friendly neighbor vs. importing oil from who knows where. This is really not that complicated folks. Just get the route down correctly with the enviros and lets roll! Jobs and lower prices would be a bonus and tax-free!

These are low tech steel pipelines that are well proven. There is nothing to be scared of Chicken Littles! :)

Its not like they are high voltage, high energy, toxic, lithium ion battery packs waiting to explode or start your electric car on fire in your garage. LOL

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29 Feb 2012 17:57 #15 by Blazer Bob

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29 Feb 2012 18:28 #16 by LadyJazzer
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PrintSmith wrote: I just love LJ's "Fact 4". I am pressed to think of a single construction job which is permanent - they all seem to end as soon as the construction on the current project is completed. If there is another project to start a year from now, the construction workers will start their next job that "will only last" until that project is finished. If there isn't a new project to start, then they will once again find themselves unemployed - after having fed their families and paid their bills "for only one year". At the very least a construction project that "only lasts one year" will be paying that construction worker a better wage than they are getting through UI for an entire year - at which point they are entitled to another 99 weeks of unemployment benefits instead of running down the clock on their current 99 weeks worth to the tune of 52 weeks. Given a choice, which Obama has denied them, I'm betting there are quite a few construction workers who would be grateful to have a job that "only lasts one year" at this point.


Since the source was: source: USChamber.com And all I did was post the article, the link and the source,...you can take your ""LJ's 'Fact 4'" and shove it up the usual orifice.

It doesn't change the lies that the neo-cons are telling, and doesn't change the facts that were presented.

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29 Feb 2012 18:31 #17 by Something the Dog Said
I am curious, how many of those pipelines carry highly corrosive, highly abrasive materials through water supplies that are critical to the agriculture production of the U.S.? Particularly when similar pipelines have a high rate of failures?

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29 Feb 2012 19:35 #18 by Blazer Bob
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LadyJazzer wrote: [Since the source was: source: USChamber.com And all I did was post the article, the link and the source,...you can take your ""LJ's 'Fact 4'" and shove it up the usual orifice.

It doesn't change the lies that the neo-cons are telling, and doesn't change the facts that were presented.


I repeat myself but don't let it get in the way of your alternate reality.

"I followed your first link: http://uschamber.com/ ,pasted your headline: "More Lies About the Keystone Pipeline and Jobs"

This was the result: http://www.uschamber.com/search/apaches ... and%20Jobs

This is currents home page: http://current.com/ ,

and you mock Fox. "

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