Libyans Desicrate US/Commonweath Graveyard

04 Mar 2012 15:00 #1 by otisptoadwater
Despicable behavior.

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04 Mar 2012 17:05 #2 by ZHawke
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otisptoadwater wrote: Despicable behavior.

Yes, it is despicable behavior. Not defending it in the least. However, you might also consider taking a look at this link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/04/libya-apologises-british-graves-desecration Just sayin'.

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05 Mar 2012 09:34 #3 by FredHayek
How soon before it happens to US troops buried in Normandy? Islamic population is increasing in France. I like that we now send the boys home for burial.

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05 Mar 2012 09:40 #4 by ZHawke
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FredHayek wrote: How soon before it happens to US troops buried in Normandy? Islamic population is increasing in France. I like that we now send the boys home for burial.


Not every member of Islam condones what happened - the reason for my post of a link to an article in which the Libyan government apparently profusely apologized for what happened, and has promised to restore the site. To say that Islamic population is increasing in France to imply that something like this is inevitable there, too, is Islamophobic and very narrow minded, at best.

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05 Mar 2012 09:49 #5 by FredHayek
There are many moderate Islamic people, all the ones I have known have been pretty well assimilated into the US, but like everywhere, it only takes a few fired up nutjobs to give a bad impression of a religion, like LJ is always quick to find any example of Christians behaving badly.

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05 Mar 2012 10:01 #6 by ZHawke
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FredHayek wrote: There are many moderate Islamic people, all the ones I have known have been pretty well assimilated into the US, but like everywhere, it only takes a few fired up nutjobs to give a bad impression of a religion, like LJ is always quick to find any example of Christians behaving badly.


Agreed, but why didn't you say that in your original post? The way your post was written gives the impression you believe just because the Islamic population is increasing in France that the World War II Veteran's cemeteries in France are at inevitable risk. It would have been a simple matter to include something to the effect that they are at risk from "a few fired up nutjobs" (as any cemetery is at risk anywhere, I might add). As far as LJ is concerned, I don't presume to speak for her, but to single her out here for your Tu Quoque posit is irrelevant to the thread.

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05 Mar 2012 10:15 #7 by FredHayek
And with the Taleban destroying the centuries old Buddhist statues, it was only a few nutjobs, but they were the intolerant nutjobs in control.

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05 Mar 2012 10:29 #8 by ZHawke
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FredHayek wrote: And with the Taleban destroying the centuries old Buddhist statues, it was only a few nutjobs, but they were the intolerant nutjobs in control.


I don't disagree. But, in France, the French are in control (whether you or I consider them to be "nutjobs" or not), not the Islamics. Your original point was (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that because the Islamist population is on the increase in France, it is probably only a matter of time before World War II cemeteries in France will also be desecrated.

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05 Mar 2012 15:09 #9 by FredHayek

ZHawke wrote:

FredHayek wrote: And with the Taleban destroying the centuries old Buddhist statues, it was only a few nutjobs, but they were the intolerant nutjobs in control.


I don't disagree. But, in France, the French are in control (whether you or I consider them to be "nutjobs" or not), not the Islamics. Your original point was (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that because the Islamist population is on the increase in France, it is probably only a matter of time before World War II cemeteries in France will also be desecrated.


You don't need to control the country to desecrate graveyards, metal thieves and teenagers do it in the states all the time.

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05 Mar 2012 15:11 #10 by ZHawke
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FredHayek wrote:

ZHawke wrote:

FredHayek wrote: And with the Taleban destroying the centuries old Buddhist statues, it was only a few nutjobs, but they were the intolerant nutjobs in control.


I don't disagree. But, in France, the French are in control (whether you or I consider them to be "nutjobs" or not), not the Islamics. Your original point was (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that because the Islamist population is on the increase in France, it is probably only a matter of time before World War II cemeteries in France will also be desecrated.


You don't need to control the country to desecrate graveyards, metal thieves and teenagers do it in the states all the time.


My point, exactly! So why do you continue to try to promote the idea this is an "Islamic" issue? That just doesn't compute for me.

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