Do you think that a candidate who lies about what he believes and would say or do anything to be president is the best choice? Do you trust Mitt to stay a conservative? Or doesn't that really matter as long as he has an R after his name? I guess I already know the answer to that. It has never seemed to me that conservatives cared as much about who they elected or what that person would do as they did about defeating Obama at all cost.
archer wrote: Do you think that a candidate who lies about what he believes and would say or do anything to be president is the best choice? Do you trust Mitt to stay a conservative? Or doesn't that really matter as long as he has an R after his name? I guess I already know the answer to that. It has never seemed to me that conservatives cared as much about who they elected or what that person would do as they did about defeating Obama at all cost.
Obama made a lot of campaign promises that didn't happen like cutting the debt. Will u still vote for him this time? Especially when you found out Obama adopted Bush's foreign policy.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
archer wrote: I don't believe Mitt is ultra conservative, only that he is trying very hard to convince the far right that he is. I'd have more respect for the man if he actually believed the stuff he says, but I seriously doubt that he does. But hey, the conservatives will vote for him, the great conservative imposter. The guy is a joke...but a wealthy one.
Yea... not like our wealthy president... or all his wealthy friends that support him... like poor 99 percenter Bill Maher.
You really think Obama is wealthy like Mitt? Really?
:rofl rofllol :rofl rofllol
Where did I say that?
The wealth of Americans is an obsession with the Left -- even as many are themselves quite wealthy. The last time the IRS published any statistics on that matter was in 2004, when the economy was doing far better than it is today. At that time there were 2.7 million adults in the United States with a net worth (total value of all assets less debts and liabilities) in excess of $1.5 million for a total of $10.2 Trillion.[/i] The IRS reference can be found here; Data Table: All top wealth holders by size of net worth.
WASHINGTON, May 16 (UPI) -- President Barack Obama's wealth reaches upward of $3.8 million and possibly much higher, financial disclosure reports issued by the White House Monday show.
Yes I will vote for Obama again, I'm not all that disappointed in what he did his 1st 3 years but wish he would have gone further to the left with a single payer system. what he has done is a step in the right direction, however small. I also think bailing out the auto companies was the right call for our economic future. As a liberal why would I want to vote for Mitt now that he has embraced the far right wing agenda that I feel is very dangerous for our country and it's social and economic future?
archer wrote: Yes I will vote for Obama again, I'm not all that disappointed in what he did his 1st 3 years but wish he would have gone further to the left with a single payer system. what he has done is a step in the right direction, however small. I also think bailing out the auto companies was the right call for our economic future. As a liberal why would I want to vote for Mitt now that he has embraced the far right wing agenda that I feel is very dangerous for our country and it's social and economic future?
I don't see that Obama did anything towards a single payer system other than his health care act which has little to do with single payer. At least Clinton tried.
I agree bailing out the auto companies has worked so far, both GM and Crysler seem to be improving and thousands of jobs saved. But that all started under Bush (you brought it up, so please don't criticize me for mentioning where it started).
How about the $800 billion plus spent by Obama on his stimulus program which added to the deficit by a huge amount and did not even come close to meeting its goals?
I know liberals rip Bush's Medicare prescription drug bill, claiming it cost $700 billion or so and was unfunded (as was the stimulus bill). But it has cost far less than that, and at least seniors got something far better (though not perfect) than they had before. Remember all the seniors looking to go to Canada for their drugs? I don't see that much anymore.
So I'll ask you a clear question, archer. Which bill do you prefer and which was more successful? Obama's stimulus bill (which cost much more), or Bush's Medicare prescription bill? Please be honest and not deflect. It's a fair question.
LadyJazzer wrote: Isn't it fascinating that you no longer hear ANYTHING from the Right about the term "flip-flopping"... It's suddenly been removed from their vocabulary.
rofllol rofllol That is only because you have your head stuck so far up left wing medias collective asshole that you could not hear your self burp. I pay attention to both sides and there are so many on the right that are disgusted to the point that your guy might actually win.
Huffpo is not the best place to see what the right thinks.
Fred, I have to live with the drug bill as does my mom. It is not nearly as good as what she had before the bill and at greater cost. We both ended up on the donut hole...for me not till October, my mom was there before summer. Why the bill didn't include the ability to bargain for lower prices like the VA I will never understand. It would still be cheaper for my mom to go to Canada for her meds. As for the stimulus, I wish it had included more money targeted at infrastructure....we HAVE to upgrade, the longer we hold off doing so the deeper the need. It's as much a debt as what we owe China. What I did not agree with is the money given to the banks and AIG..but I'll admit I don't understand it enough to articulate it. It just felt wrong. I relate more to the business world than I do to the financial world.
What I'm trying to say (before the cell phone screen cut me off ) is that both bills have some plusses and some serious drawbacks. Your question was like asking me which of my dogs I like best...or like the least.
archer wrote: Fred, I have to live with the drug bill as does my mom. It is not nearly as good as what she had before the bill and at greater cost. We both ended up on the donut hole...for me not till October, my mom was there before summer. Why the bill didn't include the ability to bargain for lower prices like the VA I will never understand. It would still be cheaper for my mom to go to Canada for her meds. As for the stimulus, I wish it had included more money targeted at infrastructure....we HAVE to upgrade, the longer we hold off doing so the deeper the need. It's as much a debt as what we owe China. What I did not agree with is the money given to the banks and AIG..but I'll admit I don't understand it enough to articulate it. It just felt wrong. I relate more to the business world than I do to the financial world.
Hey, I'm not Fred. And it looks like you are answering from a cell phone, no prob there.
But I see no way you or your mom could be spending more for drugs than before Bush's medicare drug act. Unless you are comparing apples to oranges where one or both of you had a private plan, work plan, or retirement plan and then later went to Medicare.
Before the drug plan, Medicare covered little if anything for drug costs. Now it does, regardless of the donut hole. Can you explain how it costs more for you, even with a donut hole, than before when there was no drug coverage (other than medical costs just going up as usual which doesn't have much to do with the question)?
And I don't see anything in your response endorsing Obama's $800 billion plus stimulus plan. And it did cover a lot of infrastructure. But it didn't come close to meeting its stated goals.