Praying to the God who caused the tornadoes

Sunshine Girl wrote: You don't need to believe in a "Divine Creator" to be a good person and a good parent. I am proof of that.

Amen...

BearMtnHIB wrote: Did you dimwits ever consider that there may be a devil- in addition to the GOD you all seem to want to blame? Because there is a devil too- I see it in all of you GOD haters!

Devil ?!? rofllol "Could it be......SATAN?" rofllol




And this moron who believes in invisible mythological "boogie men" is calling us "dimwits"?

rofllol rofllol

Yeah, right...

Judging by your posts, LJ, you have never demonstrated that you are a good person. Quite the opposite.

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you. It's a good thing your opinion means absolutely nothing to me.

And it's a good thing that if there IS a God, He can see into the hearts of men...If that's true, you are SOOOO screwed.

"God prefers kind atheists over hateful Christians."

I'll wager I do more kind, good, philanthropic things than YOU do...I just don't feel the need to prove it to hateful so-called christian hypocrites such as yourself. And I don't do it to please some mythical figure...I do it because it makes me feel good to do it, and for the sake of doing it.

Sitting in a garage doesn't make you a car...and obviously, sitting in a church does not make you a christian...

Arlen wrote:

Sunshine Girl wrote: When I sends prayers to someone affected by a tragedy or loss, I'm not praying to God because I don't prescribe to an organized religion. I do however send prayers out to the Universe and hope that they are able to deal with their loss with the least pain possible.

After the tragic loss of my little brother my mother who was deeply involved in her church not only questioned how God could allow this to happen to her child, she was extremely angry at Him. I think she really tried to find her way back to a belief in God, but I don't think she was ever successful.

I don't think anyone's "God" causes disaster's or death, it's just the earth behaving in its extremely powerful ways and birth and death or also a fact of life.

Alfred Lord Tennyson wrestled with this problem most of his adult life after his close friend died while in college.

Many decades later, in reference to his friend, he wrote:
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.
(In Memoriam, 1850, line 27, stanza 4)

But a parents' grief is unimaginable. I pray that I never have to be in that unspeakable position.

Sunshine Girl wrote: You don't need to believe in a "Divine Creator" to be a good person and a good parent. I am proof of that.

Of course you don't need to believe in a Divine Creator creating you in His image to be endowed with the ability to love your children in a manner that is also an image of His love for you. That is to be expected if you are created in His image, isn't it?

PrintSmith wrote:

Sunshine Girl wrote: You don't need to believe in a "Divine Creator" to be a good person and a good parent. I am proof of that.

Of course you don't need to believe in a Divine Creator creating you in His image to be endowed with the ability to love your children in a manner that is also an image of His love for you. That is to be expected if you are created in His image, isn't it?

We can agree to disagree on how, or in whose image, I was created.....I'm just glad that I was created. lol

PrintSmith wrote:

Sunshine Girl wrote: You don't need to believe in a "Divine Creator" to be a good person and a good parent. I am proof of that.

Of course you don't need to believe in a Divine Creator creating you in His image to be endowed with the ability to love your children in a manner that is also an image of His love for you. That is to be expected if you are created in His image, isn't it?

Only if you were to believe in the fantasy in the first place that there is a "divine creator" to be created in the image of....

We each have our own beliefs which the other views as little more than fantasy LJ. I am simply attempting to help JSG reach an understanding which currently eludes his own mortal abilities through parables and comparison with that which is within our flawed human understanding. Neither your insistence that the Divine is a fantasy nor my insistence of His existence will alter the reality one way or the other. When our time here is finished we shall find out then which of us has been living in a fantasy and which of us has not.

I do, however, find it curious that the meme of the "progressive" culture is tolerant only of that with which it agrees and derisive of any beliefs which diverge from their own.

I believe that right now, there are athiests that have lived a good clean life and done good deeds sitting in heaven thinking "Thank God I decided to be one of the good guys."

PrintSmith wrote: We each have our own beliefs which the other views as little more than fantasy LJ. I am simply attempting to help JSG reach an understanding which currently eludes his own mortal abilities through parables and comparison with that which is within our flawed human understanding. Neither your insistence that the Divine is a fantasy nor my insistence of His existence will alter the reality one way or the other. When our time here is finished we shall find out then which of us has been living in a fantasy and which of us has not.

I do, however, find it curious that the meme of the "progressive" culture is tolerant only of that with which it agrees and derisive of any beliefs which diverge from their own.

What part of:

LadyJazzer wrote: If that's what you need for "strength", and it works for you, more power to you.

Where I have a problem with it is when other people try to codify their particular flavor of superstition into law. When they want to insert their "church" into MY "state", (and justify it by saying that anything that goes against their particular set of beliefs is "threatening their 'freedom of religion"), THEN I have a problem. That gets back to the basic construct that "If you don't like gay marriage, don't marry someone of the same sex"; "If you don't like abortion, don't have one.", etc.....

...are you having trouble with?

Telling you I believe it's a fantasy is not being "intolerant", no matter how much you want to play the christian/victim/persecution card. Trying to codify your superstition into laws that govern my life is intolerance, and I'll fight it at every turn.