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Are You Capable?
19 Apr 2012 19:46 #13
by Martin Ent Inc
Hoping SC gives a discount.
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Martin Ent Inc wrote: Spanking sounds like fun.
It costs extra downtown
Hoping SC gives a discount.
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20 Apr 2012 09:28 #15
by Rick
But seriously, isn't it sad that I can offer my hand in friendship/civility and mostly get ignored or lectured as to why my method is so flawed? It was a pretty revealing experiment...not unexpected but definitely put an end to my attempt to make more friends than enemies.
Oh well, the offer will always stand no matter how nasty things get in the future. This was just between me and whoever wanted to join me in a more healthy and productive debate....it was not about moderating anyone. I've had lots of down time in the last couple years and came very close to death twice. I've had so much love sent my way from people I would have never expected to step up and help me and my family. Maybe the chemo just damaged my brain enough that I long for the past with no internet, where you had to speak with a certain level of respect face to face. Now we can hide behind a monitor and say any foul thing that comes to mind with no consequence.
I get it now, civility is boring and if I want to play in this playground, I have to endure a few rocks. People would rather watch a fight or a trainwreck than they would a respectful discussion....I get it now and I'm all in.
Get your firesuits and ignore buttons ready.
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
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Gettin the oven heated up right nowScience Chic wrote: YES
And you ain't gettin' banned, no matter how much you beg. Although...if you offer home-baked chocolate chip cookies and Far Niente Cab Sauvignon, I might be convinced to spank you and put you in the corner.
But seriously, isn't it sad that I can offer my hand in friendship/civility and mostly get ignored or lectured as to why my method is so flawed? It was a pretty revealing experiment...not unexpected but definitely put an end to my attempt to make more friends than enemies.
Oh well, the offer will always stand no matter how nasty things get in the future. This was just between me and whoever wanted to join me in a more healthy and productive debate....it was not about moderating anyone. I've had lots of down time in the last couple years and came very close to death twice. I've had so much love sent my way from people I would have never expected to step up and help me and my family. Maybe the chemo just damaged my brain enough that I long for the past with no internet, where you had to speak with a certain level of respect face to face. Now we can hide behind a monitor and say any foul thing that comes to mind with no consequence.
I get it now, civility is boring and if I want to play in this playground, I have to endure a few rocks. People would rather watch a fight or a trainwreck than they would a respectful discussion....I get it now and I'm all in.
Get your firesuits and ignore buttons ready.
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
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20 Apr 2012 10:30 #16
by ScienceChic
http://www.farniente.com/2012-wine-gift-catalog.html
Despite how nasty some people can get around here, it never gets to me personally because 1.) very few people here know me at all, much less in-depth so their judgements are superficial at best and also tell me a lot about themselves; 2.) how someone else posts is a reflection on them and their inability to control themselves, how I respond is totally within my control - if I lose my temper and act like a jerk, then I deserve to be treated as one in kind. It's up to me to lead by example for how I'd like to be treated.
I prefer respectful discussions, but appreciate having a place for an outlet when I do get frustrated - creating the members-only Ring was a brilliant idea. You get PO'd, go blow off steam there. I highly recommend the Let's insult each other thread , or if you can get creative the Bar Fight! thread!
Okay, big detour reading through those again, fun fun. Anyway, that's my two cents. Gotta get back to my mile-long to-do list!
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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Discount, schmiscount, I named my terms. I'm not a cheap wino (much to my husband's chagrin)!Martin Ent Inc wrote: Hoping SC gives a discount.
http://www.farniente.com/2012-wine-gift-catalog.html
:woo hoo: chocolate chip cookies!!!!!!CritiKalbILL wrote:
Gettin the oven heated up right nowScience Chic wrote: YES
And you ain't gettin' banned, no matter how much you beg. Although...if you offer home-baked chocolate chip cookies and Far Niente Cab Sauvignon, I might be convinced to spank you and put you in the corner.
You give up too easily! tongue: See, I saw the responses as expected, but also as an encouraging start and was plotting how to get better involvement next time. If you treat it as an experiment, perform one test, get results back, analyze those results (for example, number of posters participating versus number of posters total, percent of responses that were positive, neutral, and negative, which responses were expected based on previous interactions with said poster and which were unexpected, who didn't participate that you expected and who didn't participate that you had anticipated wouldn't, etc) and ask yourself what does this mean in the grand scheme of my hypothesis (will offering to be more respectful generate a positive response overall, and action on this request? Or is this method not effective enough and let's try something else) and what's the next step? This way, it takes the emotion out of the equation, plus makes it a fun brain exercise, and challenge to do more - who doesn't love that?!CritiKalbILL wrote: But seriously, isn't it sad that I can offer my hand in friendship/civility and mostly get ignored or lectured as to why my method is so flawed? It was a pretty revealing experiment...not unexpected but definitely put an end to my attempt to make more friends than enemies.
Oh, but there are consequences, may not manifest itself immediately or obviously, but there are consequences...CritiKalbILL wrote: Oh well, the offer will always stand no matter how nasty things get in the future. This was just between me and whoever wanted to join me in a more healthy and productive debate....it was not about moderating anyone. I've had lots of down time in the last couple years and came very close to death twice. I've had so much love sent my way from people I would have never expected to step up and help me and my family. Maybe the chemo just damaged my brain enough that I long for the past with no internet, where you had to speak with a certain level of respect face to face. Now we can hide behind a monitor and say any foul thing that comes to mind with no consequence.
Only the vocal ones prefer a fight or a trainwreck. Keep in mind the multitude of silent guests who watch, read, and digest what goes on here. I myself lurked at PC for 6 years, only skimming the posts and really using it only for a weather check, before someone posted something that I felt compelled to speak up about and offer up my point of view and knowledge. When I post, it's as much for them as it is for those who actively participate, and that helps give a broader perspective/balance for me.CritiKalbILL wrote: I get it now, civility is boring and if I want to play in this playground, I have to endure a few rocks. People would rather watch a fight or a trainwreck than they would a respectful discussion....I get it now and I'm all in.
Despite how nasty some people can get around here, it never gets to me personally because 1.) very few people here know me at all, much less in-depth so their judgements are superficial at best and also tell me a lot about themselves; 2.) how someone else posts is a reflection on them and their inability to control themselves, how I respond is totally within my control - if I lose my temper and act like a jerk, then I deserve to be treated as one in kind. It's up to me to lead by example for how I'd like to be treated.
I prefer respectful discussions, but appreciate having a place for an outlet when I do get frustrated - creating the members-only Ring was a brilliant idea. You get PO'd, go blow off steam there. I highly recommend the Let's insult each other thread , or if you can get creative the Bar Fight! thread!
Okay, big detour reading through those again, fun fun. Anyway, that's my two cents. Gotta get back to my mile-long to-do list!
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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20 Apr 2012 10:45 #17
by LOL
If you want to be, press one. If you want not to be, press 2
Republicans are red, democrats are blue, neither of them, gives a flip about you.
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I try to be civil most of the time, but I do admit to being sarcastic. Can't help that one! 
If you want to be, press one. If you want not to be, press 2
Republicans are red, democrats are blue, neither of them, gives a flip about you.
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20 Apr 2012 16:28 #20
by Rick
I was hoping for at least one of you on the left to break the trend and to put civilty above partisanship.
So if you don't like me attempting a small level of peace, perhaps you'll like my darker side better......
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
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You still don't get it, but I'm not surprised. NOBODY has to play by my rules...there are no rules. I've only offered a civil discussion to people who I've been less than civil with in the past. I enjoy talking politics more when there is a back and forth of ideas instead of getting condescending atitudes and straight up insults. All I did was to offer the high road to anyone who wanted to try it. You are obviously one of the people who wants to lecture me about my method and will not accept the truce I've offered. Oh well, you can move along then.....I don't need or want your opinion here.Soulshiner wrote: So, without everyone playing by your rules, you can't do this yourself? Friendship doesn't have conditions. You can still offer civil discussion and ignore the barbs and name calling, it's not that hard. Your experiment is revealing, you just aren't looking in the mirror to see it...
I was hoping for at least one of you on the left to break the trend and to put civilty above partisanship.
So if you don't like me attempting a small level of peace, perhaps you'll like my darker side better......
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
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