Obama Loves America… When It Agrees With Him

The only emperor in the World that is ashamed of his country.

Hey LJ!

Bush hasn't been in office for 4 years!

But thanks for playin.

You're welcome... This is too easy...

And they say conservatives live in the past...

Well, it didn't take long to find the truth... The usual hatchet job by The Heritage Foundation and FauxNews:

Fact Checker: Obama's 'Apology Tour'
Washington Post

The Facts

Most of the criticism stems from a series of speeches that Obama made shortly after taking office, when he was trying to introduce himself to the world and also signify a break with the Bush administration with new policies, such as pledging to close the detainee facility at Guantanamo Bay.

This is typical of many new presidents. George W. Bush, for instance, quickly broke with Clinton administration policy on dealings with North Korea, the Kyoto climate change treaty and the international criminal court, to name a few.

Rove built his case around four quotes made by Obama:

Mr. Obama told the French (the French!) that America "has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive" toward Europe. In Prague, he said America has "a moral responsibility to act" on arms control because only the U.S. had "used a nuclear weapon." In London, he said that decisions about the world financial system were no longer made by "just Roosevelt and Churchill sitting in a room with a brandy" -- as if that were a bad thing. And in Latin America, he said the U.S. had not "pursued and sustained engagement with our neighbors" because we "failed to see that our own progress is tied directly to progress throughout the Americas."

In none of these cases does Obama actually use a word at all similar to "apologize." The Latin American comment might have resonance with Rove's old boss, since that was Bush's charge against the Clinton administration in the 2000 campaign. The Prague and London quotes are not apologies at all. The Paris quote, which is often cited as an apology, is taken out of context.

In Paris, Obama was trying to rebuild relations with Europe, where opposition to the Iraq war had run high. The quote in Paris often cited by conservatives is this: "In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."

That doesn't sound like much of an apology, more of a statement of fact that few international-relations experts would quarrel with. But Obama was making the case that both sides had misunderstood each other, and so he also said: "But in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual, but can also be insidious. Instead of recognizing the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans choose to blame America for much of what's bad."

The two sentences are a matched pair; there is no apology.

The Heritage Foundation list is also a stretch. Again, nothing akin to the word "apology" is ever used by Obama. In most of these cases, Obama is trying to make a clear distinction with his predecessor, much as Ronald Reagan did with Jimmy Carter, or George W. Bush with Clinton. Guantanamo or the war on terrorism figures in four of the so-called apologies -- and it is noteworthy during the 2000 campaign that Obama's GOP opponent, Sen. John McCain, also had said he would close the facility. Obama's comments express a disagreement over policy, not a distaste for the nation.

Another Heritage example is a speech Obama gave in April 2009 to the Turkish parliament, in which he was trying to urge that country to come to terms with its tragic history with the Armenians: "The United States is still working through some of our own darker periods in our history. Facing the Washington Monument that I spoke of is a memorial of Abraham Lincoln, the man who freed those who were enslaved even after Washington led our Revolution."

But compare what Obama said to what George W. Bush said at Senegal's Goree Island in 2003. Bush called the U.S. constitution flawed and said that America is still troubled by the legacy of slavery. This does not seem like an apology, either -- but it is even more sharply framed than Obama's comments.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-c ... _tour.html

Imagine my surprise... Another load of lies from the usual sources... God, don't you wackos ever get tired of spouting easily disproven garbage from your FauxNews/Heritage Foundation/Karl Rove bullsh*t sources?

rofllol

Too easy... Wake me up when you have something besides LIES and DISTORTIONS, and out-of-context selective-edits to post.

Too easy... Wake me up when you have something besides LIES and DISTORTIONS, and out-of-context selective-edits to post.

Here's one for ya LJ.....
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Sorry... The "goal post" is back over there... Deflecting to some unrelated b.s. doesn't clean up the mess you just made. This one is about "Obama apologizing for America", which we now know is a LIE....

You've soiled yourself... Go cleanup.

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I'd like to hear ANYONE on the left defend Obama's words in that video. Were they lies or just wishful promises that Obama never fully thought through?

LadyJazzer wrote: You've soiled yourself... Go cleanup.

rofllol Good line, much better than your usual. I hope you keep it up.