7 Dumbest Things GOP Politicians Have Said About Abortion

archer wrote:

CinnamonGirl wrote:

archer wrote:

CinnamonGirl wrote: Uh, war on women? Two people are involved in being pregnant. In many cases, what the man wants in this situation is not even considered.

I'll consider it when he is pregnant

Wow, that illustrated my point.

what exactly was your point? That a man should be able to tell a woman that she has to carry his child even if she doesn't want to? What if it endangers her health? What if he raped her? Who gets to choose?......It's a woman's right to choose at issue here....not a man's, not the government's, not her parents, not the Republicans, not the court of public opinion.....a WOMAN'S right to choose.

And that brings us full circle to using fetuses for commercial consumptive products. It's not human, it's simply biological material. We manufacture insulin from highly purified pancreas extracts which is infused into a humans system, and where do you get off suggesting that there is something wrong with another cultures practices. Dog meat is eaten by a number of cultures. Colorado allows the processing and sale of horse meat to humans. A fetus is just more biological material that has various uses for humans. Your attitude is not very progressive. If a woman has the right to do with a fetus what she wants. then there should be no restrictions on using that fetus for products.

archer wrote:

CinnamonGirl wrote:

archer wrote:

CinnamonGirl wrote: Uh, war on women? Two people are involved in being pregnant. In many cases, what the man wants in this situation is not even considered.

I'll consider it when he is pregnant

Wow, that illustrated my point.

what exactly was your point? That a man should be able to tell a woman that she has to carry his child even if she doesn't want to? What if it endangers her health? What if he raped her? Who gets to choose?......It's a woman's right to choose at issue here....not a man's, not the government's, not her parents, not the Republicans, not the court of public opinion.....a WOMAN'S right to choose.

That is what illustrated my point. The man's opinion is not even considered, you just said it. Part of him is there too. So, the war on women argument doesn't hold water with me. You just said that the man's point is NOT considered. Is that not what I just said? You illustrated my point.

archer wrote:

CinnamonGirl wrote: Uh, war on women? Two people are involved in being pregnant. In many cases, what the man wants in this situation is not even considered.

I'll consider it when he is pregnant

Did you see the case of the man whose ex-wife used his frozen semen without his consent to become pregnant? Do you think the man has rights in this case?

FredHayek wrote:

archer wrote:

CinnamonGirl wrote: Uh, war on women? Two people are involved in being pregnant. In many cases, what the man wants in this situation is not even considered.

I'll consider it when he is pregnant

Did you see the case of the man whose ex-wife used his frozen semen without his consent to become pregnant? Do you think the man has rights in this case?

yes, those sperm were not in the woman's body so they are his to control, I think the woman was wrong.

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

archer wrote:

CinnamonGirl wrote:

archer wrote:

CinnamonGirl wrote: Uh, war on women? Two people are involved in being pregnant. In many cases, what the man wants in this situation is not even considered.

I'll consider it when he is pregnant

Wow, that illustrated my point.

what exactly was your point? That a man should be able to tell a woman that she has to carry his child even if she doesn't want to? What if it endangers her health? What if he raped her? Who gets to choose?......It's a woman's right to choose at issue here....not a man's, not the government's, not her parents, not the Republicans, not the court of public opinion.....a WOMAN'S right to choose.

And that brings us full circle to using fetuses for commercial consumptive products. It's not human, it's simply biological material. We manufacture insulin from highly purified pancreas extracts which is infused into a humans system, and where do you get off suggesting that there is something wrong with another cultures practices. Dog meat is eaten by a number of cultures. Colorado allows the processing and sale of horse meat to humans. A fetus is just more biological material that has various uses for humans. Your attitude is not very progressive. If a woman has the right to do with a fetus what she wants. then there should be no restrictions on using that fetus for products.

All this because I said the story made me gag? If you are going to discuss a liver transplant in all it's gory details, that too would make me gag.....as do many things, there are posts on this board that make me gag and they aren't even medically related. This was my opinion of this story, you all don't have to share it.....

archer wrote: It's a woman's right to choose at issue here....not a man's, not the government's, not her parents, not the Republicans, not the court of public opinion.....a WOMAN'S right to choose.

And according to stats provided by LJ in another thread, even 61% of women don't think that it should be an unrestricted right, that society does have an interest in limiting a woman's right to choose that course of action.

PrintSmith wrote:

archer wrote: It's a woman's right to choose at issue here....not a man's, not the government's, not her parents, not the Republicans, not the court of public opinion.....a WOMAN'S right to choose.

And according to stats provided by LJ in another thread, even 61% of women don't think that it should be an unrestricted right, that society does have an interest in limiting a woman's right to choose that course of action.

And that has what to do with my personal opinion? nothing.

archer wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

archer wrote:

CinnamonGirl wrote:

archer wrote:

CinnamonGirl wrote: Uh, war on women? Two people are involved in being pregnant. In many cases, what the man wants in this situation is not even considered.

I'll consider it when he is pregnant

Wow, that illustrated my point.

what exactly was your point? That a man should be able to tell a woman that she has to carry his child even if she doesn't want to? What if it endangers her health? What if he raped her? Who gets to choose?......It's a woman's right to choose at issue here....not a man's, not the government's, not her parents, not the Republicans, not the court of public opinion.....a WOMAN'S right to choose.

And that brings us full circle to using fetuses for commercial consumptive products. It's not human, it's simply biological material. We manufacture insulin from highly purified pancreas extracts which is infused into a humans system, and where do you get off suggesting that there is something wrong with another cultures practices. Dog meat is eaten by a number of cultures. Colorado allows the processing and sale of horse meat to humans. A fetus is just more biological material that has various uses for humans. Your attitude is not very progressive. If a woman has the right to do with a fetus what she wants. then there should be no restrictions on using that fetus for products.

All this because I said the story made me gag? If you are going to discuss a liver transplant in all it's gory details, that too would make me gag.....as do many things, there are posts on this board that make me gag and they aren't even medically related. This was my opinion of this story, you all don't have to share it.....

You're only opinion on the story is that it makes you gag? No... I have a simple question for you and let's see if you can give me an informed answer. Would you have any problem using fetuses for consumptive products as long as the consumptive product can be free of harmful pathogens? And I'm not interested in your gag reflexes... that's another topic KissyFace:

archer wrote:

PrintSmith wrote:

archer wrote: It's a woman's right to choose at issue here....not a man's, not the government's, not her parents, not the Republicans, not the court of public opinion.....a WOMAN'S right to choose.

And according to stats provided by LJ in another thread, even 61% of women don't think that it should be an unrestricted right, that society does have an interest in limiting a woman's right to choose that course of action.

And that has what to do with my personal opinion? nothing.

Are you trying to say that the majority of women are engaged in a war on women because they don't share your opinion on this issue? That seems to be the stance you have taken vis-a-vis the GOP - that their opinion differs from yours and they are therefore engaged in a war on women.

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

archer wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

archer wrote:

CinnamonGirl wrote:

archer wrote:

CinnamonGirl wrote: Uh, war on women? Two people are involved in being pregnant. In many cases, what the man wants in this situation is not even considered.

I'll consider it when he is pregnant

Wow, that illustrated my point.

what exactly was your point? That a man should be able to tell a woman that she has to carry his child even if she doesn't want to? What if it endangers her health? What if he raped her? Who gets to choose?......It's a woman's right to choose at issue here....not a man's, not the government's, not her parents, not the Republicans, not the court of public opinion.....a WOMAN'S right to choose.

And that brings us full circle to using fetuses for commercial consumptive products. It's not human, it's simply biological material. We manufacture insulin from highly purified pancreas extracts which is infused into a humans system, and where do you get off suggesting that there is something wrong with another cultures practices. Dog meat is eaten by a number of cultures. Colorado allows the processing and sale of horse meat to humans. A fetus is just more biological material that has various uses for humans. Your attitude is not very progressive. If a woman has the right to do with a fetus what she wants. then there should be no restrictions on using that fetus for products.

All this because I said the story made me gag? If you are going to discuss a liver transplant in all it's gory details, that too would make me gag.....as do many things, there are posts on this board that make me gag and they aren't even medically related. This was my opinion of this story, you all don't have to share it.....

You're only opinion on the story is that it makes you gag? No... I have a simple question for you and let's see if you can give me an informed answer. Would you have any problem using fetuses for consumptive products as long as the consumptive product can be free of harmful pathogens? And I'm not interested in your gag reflexes... that's another topic KissyFace:

Yes I have a problem with using fetuses for human consumption, because even if it is not a viable human being, it is human tissue and that to me is cannibalism, I would feel the same about eating a human liver or any other human tissue.....what part of that is so difficult to understand?