The Ronald Reagan Legacy

10 May 2012 13:08 #11 by JSG
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You don't count raising taxes 11 times in seven of his eight years in office or expanding the federal government by adding to the bureaucracy?

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10 May 2012 14:18 #12 by FredHayek
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JSG wrote: You don't count raising taxes 11 times in seven of his eight years in office or expanding the federal government by adding to the bureaucracy?


Goverment isn't a dictatorship like Obama wants. Ronald Reagan had to work out compromises with Tip O'Neill to get his agenda passed.

The no new machine gun rule came out as a compromise, legalize interstate consumer ammunition sales, but give up something else.

I was never a Ronald Reagan disciple and actually supported the Libertarian choice in the 80's, couldn't vote until the mid 80's.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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10 May 2012 14:44 #13 by BearMtnHIB
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I was a Reagan disciple- I voted for him both times. He changed my life and made it possible for me to buy a house, somthing that was nearly out of the question in 1979.

With 18+ percent interest rates- 16% inflation rate and double digit unemployment- he turned it all around in less than 4 years.

What has Obama done in 4 years except kick the can down the road and expand government?

The number of jobs increased by 16 million under Reagan and federal revenue increased 15 percent.

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10 May 2012 14:53 #14 by LadyJazzer
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What has he done?
* He hasn't raised taxes.
* He's created more jobs in 3 years than Bush did in 8 years.
* He brought the country back from the cliff of disastrous crash.
* He killed Bin Laden, and SAVED the auto-industry

There are SO many others, but it will fall on deaf ears.

Reagan was the last Republican presidential candidate I voted for too... Only once... By the second term it was obvious what was going on, and I became a Democrat.

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10 May 2012 15:19 #15 by BearMtnHIB
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Obama didn't do any of those things on that list- he has raised hundreds of taxable items- you dont think the 18 Obamacare taxes is raising taxes?

You are loony tunes!

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10 May 2012 15:20 #16 by Rick
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LadyJazzer wrote: What has he done?
* He hasn't raised taxes. Until 2013
* He's created more jobs in 3 years than Bush did in 8 years. "HE" created? There are 2 milllion less working
* He brought the country back from the cliff of disastrous crash. Still as stagnant as ever
* He killed Bin Laden, and SAVED the auto-industry The Seals killed Bin Laden, HE just gave the ok....Ford didn't need saving. GM still owes billions

There are SO many others, but it will fall on deaf ears.

Reagan was the last Republican presidential candidate I voted for too... Only once... By the second term it was obvious what was going on, and I became a Democrat.


The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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10 May 2012 15:21 #17 by LadyJazzer
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He did EVERYTHING on that list.

You don't like it? Tough...

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10 May 2012 15:33 #18 by BearMtnHIB
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You socialists have a twisted view of reality.

Obama has allowed dozens of tax credits and deductions to expire starting Jan 1. These are tax increases. He's even hiking the tax on the first 10K earned by 50%! That hits poor people.

The "making work pay" credit expired last year, and people just paid $400 more in Federal taxes this last April....

That's a tax increase!

The average family will pay $1,750 more in federal taxes next year.

And the economy is at great risk of falling back into recession- some economists think we are already in recession. So much for saving the economy.

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10 May 2012 15:40 #19 by LadyJazzer
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Since all of that is hypothetical, could be subject to congressional changes, and hasn't happened yet, it doesn't change what I said, and makes you a liar. When January 1st gets here, and any of it happens, then you can blame your own party for obstructing possible compromises.

Credits expiring are tax increases? So, the GOP wanted to increase EVERYONE'S payroll taxes by allowing the Obama 50% reduction in payroll taxes to expire. Thanks for pointing that out.

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10 May 2012 15:44 #20 by BearMtnHIB
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Here's a clue- if you pay more than you did last year- your taxes went up.

If you pay taxes on thing that you did not have to pay on last year- your taxes went up.

This trick that government uses called "deductions" or "credits" - it's all just playing with words. If you are paying more- your taxes went up.

And guess what- my taxes went up.

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