Too many topics

PS is off his rocker. I cannot imagine Mark for Park being my only representative, just because my neighbors could give a crap, talk about a good old boys club. PS is doing good with the states or localities being able to stop fed action easier. We need less govt and then to shift it locally, there is nothing wrong with having many sets of standards and cultures. This will not be had with revolution. History tells me that revolution will beget a larger more top down govt with less say by the people. I suggest some basic resistance against stupid things. Kick the assessor off your land, don't pay your taxes, rant more in person, these steps should be taken before you start a society level revolution.

Before we jump from this to revolution, we should try some resistance. OWS and the TP and Cop Watch and Adam Kokesh and others are resisting, but those heavily invested in the current system, not only disagree, but they want the overpowered current system they dislike to the point of encouraging revolution to use that excess power to stop these folks. You don't have to agree with them to agree with the concept of resistance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ltTmp8xto "you cannot shut me up, that's not the way this works!" "You are being violently wrong"

By the way, many who are actually resisting the bullshit would strip you of your intellectual property rights....and right now since they exist, I am trying to get a patent on starting fire (not - please don't explain why I cannot - it will only continue the madness). Owning ideas is absolutely bunk and contrary to the development of culture and better ideas for all. But you and monsanto can live it up while you can.

After all your OWS criticism of subtle ways they disrupt a few people's days and what it seem to remember you being willing to let happen to them for punishment or treatment....it seems odd to suggest revolution. Why not try some mild spice first before you eat the ghost chilli. I know you are an activist (or a fed agent), so keep being active, increase how active you are, touch more people with your ideas, just let them know which one's they are allowed to use and which one's are protected by govt. thugs, before you start your revolution against the thugs.

popcorn eater wrote: PS is off his rocker. I cannot imagine Mark for Park being my only representative, just because my neighbors could give a crap, talk about a good old boys club. PS is doing good with the states or localities being able to stop fed action easier. We need less govt and then to shift it locally, there is nothing wrong with having many sets of standards and cultures. This will not be had with revolution. History tells me that revolution will beget a larger more top down govt with less say by the people. I suggest some basic resistance against stupid things. Kick the assessor off your land, don't pay your taxes, rant more in person, these steps should be taken before you start a society level revolution.

Before we jump from this to revolution, we should try some resistance. OWS and the TP and Cop Watch and Adam Kokesh and others are resisting, but those heavily invested in the current system, not only disagree, but they want the overpowered current system they dislike to the point of encouraging revolution to use that excess power to stop these folks. You don't have to agree with them to agree with the concept of resistance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ltTmp8xto "you cannot shut me up, that's not the way this works!" "You are being violently wrong"

By the way, many who are actually resisting the bullsh** would strip you of your intellectual property rights....and right now since they exist, I am trying to get a patent on starting fire (not - please don't explain why I cannot - it will only continue the madness). Owning ideas is absolutely bunk and contrary to the development of culture and better ideas for all. But you and monsanto can live it up while you can.

After all your OWS criticism of subtle ways they disrupt a few people's days and what it seem to remember you being willing to let happen to them for punishment or treatment....it seems odd to suggest revolution. Why not try some mild spice first before you eat the ghost chilli. I know you are an activist (or a fed agent), so keep being active, increase how active you are, touch more people with your ideas, just let them know which one's they are allowed to use and which one's are protected by govt. thugs, before you start your revolution against the thugs.

Where have I (or anyone on this thread) suggested revolution?

Activist or a Fed Agent? No... neither. Boo! Do you see Feds under every rock? The best Federal agent is that computer you're using (that's another topic). I'm almost 60 and I don't have the time, energy or influence to be an activist. That's the realm of the young. That's why we have young people. They can be useful as sacrificial "lambs." Young people are idealistic, energetic and basically stupid (stupid in the classical sense as in not bothered with the cold facts of life that start to burden them down with reality and cynicism).

But on the topic of revolution, OWS is not an revolution. They are pawns of far-left ideology and their little play acting and flaccid attempts at social unrest is just a diversion for the real dangerous folks. Real revolution is organized, systematic and fueled by it's own detailed purposes. OWS are clowns, from one OWS protestor to the next you can't even get a straight mission statement from them. They don't know why they are on the streets. They are not a revolution, they are a mess.

And while patents on starting fires (try a match) and intellectual property rights are interesting topic, I'm not sure what it has to do with this thread. If anything, they are fringe issues which muddy the waters.

Get a clue, make a plan and leave the statist and Marxist out of the picture. They only want to fill the void that the OWS would create. If anyone wants to flush out the plutocrats and clean the toilet that Washington has become, it's going to take require a concerted effort from the 99% and the 1% to change the system.

What you say all makes sense TLGT. But somehow I don't see the 99% nor 1% working to make this happen until something major happens that makes everyone wake up, such as a massive amount of foreclosures, job losses, EU going belly up, etc.

I am all ears to any suggestions to get people to work together.

akilina wrote: What you say all makes sense TLGT. But somehow I don't see the 99% nor 1% working to make this happen until something major happens that makes everyone wake up, such as a massive amount of foreclosures, job losses, EU going belly up, etc.

I am all ears to any suggestions to get people to work together.

"Come Together"

Here come old flat top
He come groovin' up slowly
He got joo joo eyeballs
He one holy rollers
He got hair down to his knee
Got to be a joker
He just do what he please

He wear no shoeshine
He got toe jam football
He got monkey finger
He shoot Coca Cola
He say I know you, you know me
One thing I can tell you is
You got to be free
Come together, right now
Over me

How to get the the 99% and the 1% together... if you understand these lyrics... you're gun license is denied.

1st verse:
"HERE COME OL' FLAT-TOP,
HE COME GROOVIN' UP SLOWLY.
HE GOT HAIR DOWN TO HIS KNEE,
GOT TO BE A JOKER HE JUST DO WHAT HE PLEASE."

This verse references Ringo. "Flat-Top" makes reference to Ringo's bluesy musical roots and the disparaging stereotype that was often applied to those that played that style of music.
"Groovin' up slowly" refers to the fact that Ringo was the last to join the final and 'official' line-up of the band, yet his drumming ability was very limited and borderline acceptable at the beginning, especially compared to the abilities of the rest of the band. As he honed his skill, he slowly became better and better at holding down the beat of the music, or 'groove' as it was also loosely referred to. As the group continued to record and release music, his talent slowly came up to the standards of the other three.
"He got hair down to his knee" simply refers to the fact that Ringo had a longer, shaggy hairstyle when he joined the band, while the other three had the short, close-cropped style favored by the 'mods' of the day.
"Got to be a joker he just do what he please" is obvious: Ringo was the funny one, the 'cut-up' of the group and he often said and did bizzarre and unexpected things in formal situations the group found themselves in during the early years. His enthusiastic, upbeat attitude was a major influence of the early writings of John and Paul.

Verse #2:
"HE WEAR NO SHOE-SHINE,
HE GOT TOE-JAM FOOTBALL.
HE GOT MONKEY-FINGER,
HE SHOOT COCA-COLA.

HE SAY I KNOW YOU, YOU KNOW ME.
ONE THING I CAN TELL YOU IS YOU GOT TO BE FREE.

The subject of this verse is George. "He wear no shoe-shine" is a reference to going to bare-foot, a quite-common state of dress that George adopted once he became so enamored of the Indian Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Bare feet and simple robes were the accepted dress of the followers of the Yogi, and George's influence quickly spread to the other three Beatles.
Toe-Jam football is just a reference to bare-foot 'soccer' style football playing, the common social outdoor activity practiced by many while worshipping at the yogi's temple.
"Monkey-Finger" refers to George's manual dexterity and amazing abilty to master many, many different styles of stringed intruments, notably the 'sitar', an almost unknown instrument at the time that he was introduced to and quickly learned how to play while worshipping at the yogi's temple.
"He shoot coca-cola" is obvious: 'coca-cola' is street-slang for cocaine, a drug that George, as well as the others, would often 'shoot up' directly into thier veins.
"I know you, you know me...we got to be free" is simply the basic premise of the entire teachings of the Yogi, that George was so whole-heartadly promoting to his fellow bandmates.

"COME TOGETHER RIGHT NOW...OVER ME" refers to the message the Yogi deleivered to the band asa group that would supposedly heal the growing rift and dissention between the four members of the band and unite them as a single cohesive unit once again.

Verse #3:
"HE BAD (NOT 'BAG') PRODUCTION,
HE GOT WALRUS GUM-BOOT.
HE GOT ONO SIDEBOARD,
HE ONE SPINAL CRACKER,
HE GOT FEET DOWN BELOW HIS KNEE,
HOLD YOU IN HIS ARMCHAIR YOU CAN FEEL HIS DISEASE.

No questions about this one, it's about John all the way:
"Bad production" refers to John's increasing level of drug use and the negative effect it had on his abilty to effectivly create acceptable music with the rest of the band, and to function with the rest of the band.
John was the 'Walrus' referred to in the 'I am the Walrus; lyrics', clearly this refers to him.(notwithstanding the later lyric 'the walrus was Paul' from "Glass onion")
A 'sideboard' is the term used when attorneys would be called away from a trial during court for private discussion. "Ono sideboard" makes refernce to the growing distraction that the rest of the band felt Yoko Ono was having on John.
John's increasing uncooperative attitude towards the professional and musical direction the rest of the band wanted to follow manifested itself in John constantly griping and complaining to the others, or in slang terms "breaking thier backs", a term referenced with 'spinal cracker'.

"Feet down below his knee" also makes refernce to his stubborn, uncompromising desire to do things his way only with little or no regard for the rest of the band's wishes. To give in was to be seen as being on 'your knees', but John had 'feet below his knees', so there was no way he was going to kneel(stand on his knees) and be subserviant when he could 'stand on his feet' and be the decison-maker.
"Hold you in his armchair (possibly..."arms, yeah...) you can feel his disease" refers to the fact that John's tough exterior persona barely fooled anyone, as his self-loathing and self-doubt, fueled and magnified by increasingly excessive drug use began to consume him. To be close to , or to 'hold him in your arm...' was to know the real John, where one could 'feel his disease'.

Verse #4:
"HE ROLLER COASTER,
HE GOT EARLY WARNING.
HE GOT MUDDY WATER,
HE ONE MOJO FILTER.
HE SAY ONE AND ONE AND ONE IS THREE
GOT TO BE GOOD LOOKING 'CAUSE HE'S SO HARD TO SEE"

Well, last of the four is Paul, and this is clearly all about Paul.
'Roller coaster' refers to Paul's aggravating habit to the rest of the band by constantly changing his stated desire to either break up and move on to a solo career or to remain as a band and contue on as the 'Beatles'.
'Early warning' makes reference to the fact that they all made it clear to Paul long before that his selfish, superior attitide was going to create a rift between them and in fact it finally did.
'Muddy water' describes the bad feelings and growing poor relationship between Paul and the rest of the band due to his constant lying and manipulation of them, and particularly about his attempts to convince the others to let his father-in-law manage the band as opposed to the choice the others made.
'Mojo filter' refers to Paul's habit of 'spin doctoring' information to the others and manipulating thier perceptions so as to ultimately get his way.
'One and one and one is three' refers to Paul's attempts to try and convince the others that if he did indeed leave the band and start a solo career, they remaining three could carry on and continue to be 'the Beatles' without him, contray to everyone else's opinion.
'Got to be good looking...': a straightforward reference to the fact that he was typically considered the 'cute, good looking one' of the group.
'...so hard to see' desribes the increasing time away from the rest of the band that Paul was spending on persoanl projects, to the detriment of any possible group projects.

So, there you have it!

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote: if you understand these lyrics... you're gun license is denied.

"You're" spelling license has obviously been denied.

JSG wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote: if you understand these lyrics... you're gun license is denied.

"You're" spelling license has obviously been denied.

Big sh*t asshole.