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The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

netdude wrote: Sorry you have such a narrow view of people....

5 is something that needs to be addressed, not just 'aggressively' cut. All the rest make sense....

What the F' are you talking about? "Sorry you have such a narrow view of people" ... what does that mean. This is a list I culled from certain proposals I've seen put forth to solve some of our economic and social problems. It's not set in stone, it's not really biased and it's open to modifications and additions. So if that remark was addressed to me... shut your ugly pie hole.

Your such a useless pr!ck.... therefore.. impotence is thy name.... Wish the board had an alias option for useless people like you.... if it did, that would definitively be it.

I was responding to:

but it would be interesting to see what items off of that menu liberals would select. Anyone want to make bets?

, you have already pre-judged the response of people...

Something the Dog Said wrote:

TPP wrote:

CritiKalbILL wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:
The Republicans answer to the economy? Go back to the Bush policies that destroyed our economy.

What was the major factor that caused the recession and what percentage of that factor can you attribute to a Bush policy?

The "Housing market" was destoried by the dems. demanding that banks give loans to those that could'nt afford them. LOOK AT HISTORY FACTS, thank you franks & dodd.
G.W. should NEVER approved 1st bail-out, he sold out to U.S. the same way Daddy did... The blame stops there, move...

BS in regard to the "Housing Market". The vast majority of undeserving loans were not issued under "franks & dodd" . The crisis in the housing market was solely due to the greed of the unregulated financial industry.

The housing market crash was caused by Americans...nothing less. Yes, congress passed stupid laws to try to get people who couldn't afford homes into homes. Wall street also allowed people into these homes. BUT NOBODY HELD A GUN TO THE HEAD OF THE BUYERS. They alone are at fault. If you don't read the contract, it is your fault. I know lots of people who were foreclosed on. I asked myself when they bought their homes if they could afford it. Nobody made them buy way over their head.

netdude wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

netdude wrote: Sorry you have such a narrow view of people....

5 is something that needs to be addressed, not just 'aggressively' cut. All the rest make sense....

What the F' are you talking about? "Sorry you have such a narrow view of people" ... what does that mean. This is a list I culled from certain proposals I've seen put forth to solve some of our economic and social problems. It's not set in stone, it's not really biased and it's open to modifications and additions. So if that remark was addressed to me... shut your ugly pie hole.

Your such a useless pr!ck.... therefore.. impotence is thy name.... Wish the board had an alias option for useless people like you.... if it did, that would definitively be it.

I was responding to:

but it would be interesting to see what items off of that menu liberals would select. Anyone want to make bets?

, you have already pre-judged the response of people...

Whine, whine, whine...

Something the Dog Said wrote:

CritiKalbILL wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:
The Republicans answer to the economy? Go back to the Bush policies that destroyed our economy.

What was the major factor that caused the recession and what percentage of that factor can you attribute to a Bush policy?

so much to choose from.

1) unfunded tax cuts without corresponding cuts in spending wiping out the huge surplus he inherited.
2) two major unfunded wars without providing revenue to pay for them.
3) policies designed to reallocate wealth from the middle class to the wealthiest 1/4 percent, not realizing that it is the middle class that drives the economy, not the one percent.
4) failure to recognize the inherent riskiness of the unusual financial instruments used by wall street investment firms and regulate them while appointing anti-regulators to key positions in the financial regulation agencies.
5) failure to shore up the economic soundness of the nation.
6) failure to provide a coherent energy policy leading to unchecked rise in gas prices raising the cost of living for average Americans.
7) increase in federal spending without providing increase in revenue to pay for them, doubling discretionary federal spending and increasing entitlement programs without paying for them.
etc.

Overall, I would say that Bush by doing away with paying as you go, increasing spending without paying for it, and for lax oversight on the financial industry was responsible for the Great Recession, and Gov. Etch a Sketch simply wants to go back to those policies.

1) They weren't huge surpluses, they were just trending in the right direction and then "W" had to deal with 9/11 and the Dotcom bust which he had little control over.
2) Wars that the Dem Party signed off on.
3) A tax code that was approved by the Dems too.
4) Actually regulation was increased including Sarbanes Oxley which was unable to prevent Bernie Madoff, much less billion dollar banks. But maybe it wasn't the regulators fault? Banks in much more heavily regualted Europe were also failing, sometimes that happens in recessions.
5) Failure to shore up the economic soundness of the nation? Like Obama is doing, right now?
6) Coherent energy policy? Has this nation ever had one?
7) Spending without paying for it? President Obama condemmed this and increased it to higher levels.

Mitt wants to go back to those policies? We have never left them.
Obama has attacked Wall Street but hasn't done anything about it, in fact income disparity increased under his watch.


Just thought I would take a lot at your regurgitated talking points. President Barack Obama is all talk and no action. Even his greatest achievement, Obamacare, is under review.

FredHayek wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:

CritiKalbILL wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:
The Republicans answer to the economy? Go back to the Bush policies that destroyed our economy.

What was the major factor that caused the recession and what percentage of that factor can you attribute to a Bush policy?

so much to choose from.

1) unfunded tax cuts without corresponding cuts in spending wiping out the huge surplus he inherited.
2) two major unfunded wars without providing revenue to pay for them.
3) policies designed to reallocate wealth from the middle class to the wealthiest 1/4 percent, not realizing that it is the middle class that drives the economy, not the one percent.
4) failure to recognize the inherent riskiness of the unusual financial instruments used by wall street investment firms and regulate them while appointing anti-regulators to key positions in the financial regulation agencies.
5) failure to shore up the economic soundness of the nation.
6) failure to provide a coherent energy policy leading to unchecked rise in gas prices raising the cost of living for average Americans.
7) increase in federal spending without providing increase in revenue to pay for them, doubling discretionary federal spending and increasing entitlement programs without paying for them.
etc.

Overall, I would say that Bush by doing away with paying as you go, increasing spending without paying for it, and for lax oversight on the financial industry was responsible for the Great Recession, and Gov. Etch a Sketch simply wants to go back to those policies.

1) They weren't huge surpluses, they were just trending in the right direction and then "W" had to deal with 9/11 and the Dotcom bust which he had little control over.
2) Wars that the Dem Party signed off on.
3) A tax code that was approved by the Dems too.
4) Actually regulation was increased including Sarbanes Oxley which was unable to prevent Bernie Madoff, much less billion dollar banks. But maybe it wasn't the regulators fault? Banks in much more heavily regualted Europe were also failing, sometimes that happens in recessions.
5) Failure to shore up the economic soundness of the nation? Like Obama is doing, right now?
6) Coherent energy policy? Has this nation ever had one?
7) Spending without paying for it? President Obama condemmed this and increased it to higher levels.

Mitt wants to go back to those policies? We have never left them.
Obama has attacked Wall Street but hasn't done anything about it, in fact income disparity increased under his watch.


Just thought I would take a lot at your regurgitated talking points. President Barack Obama is all talk and no action. Even his greatest achievement, Obamacare, is under review.

1) considering he inherited huge deficits from Reagan, and left Bush with $236 billion in surplus, which Bush promptly burned through, I would consider $236 billion to be huge.
2) Based on faulty premises and lies by Bush, and further, Bush failed to account for the cost.
3) So Obama is not to blame in any part for the current economy since the GOP controls the House as well as preventing his economic plans from passing through the Senate.
4) actually, Bush failed to regulate the derivative market which led to the excesses causing the housing and banking crisis.
5) - 7) Nonsense

FredHayek wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:

CritiKalbILL wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:
The Republicans answer to the economy? Go back to the Bush policies that destroyed our economy.

What was the major factor that caused the recession and what percentage of that factor can you attribute to a Bush policy?

so much to choose from.

1) unfunded tax cuts without corresponding cuts in spending wiping out the huge surplus he inherited.
2) two major unfunded wars without providing revenue to pay for them.
3) policies designed to reallocate wealth from the middle class to the wealthiest 1/4 percent, not realizing that it is the middle class that drives the economy, not the one percent.
4) failure to recognize the inherent riskiness of the unusual financial instruments used by wall street investment firms and regulate them while appointing anti-regulators to key positions in the financial regulation agencies.
5) failure to shore up the economic soundness of the nation.
6) failure to provide a coherent energy policy leading to unchecked rise in gas prices raising the cost of living for average Americans.
7) increase in federal spending without providing increase in revenue to pay for them, doubling discretionary federal spending and increasing entitlement programs without paying for them.
etc.

Overall, I would say that Bush by doing away with paying as you go, increasing spending without paying for it, and for lax oversight on the financial industry was responsible for the Great Recession, and Gov. Etch a Sketch simply wants to go back to those policies.

1) They weren't huge surpluses, they were just trending in the right direction and then "W" had to deal with 9/11 and the Dotcom bust which he had little control over.
2) Wars that the Dem Party signed off on.
3) A tax code that was approved by the Dems too.
4) Actually regulation was increased including Sarbanes Oxley which was unable to prevent Bernie Madoff, much less billion dollar banks. But maybe it wasn't the regulators fault? Banks in much more heavily regualted Europe were also failing, sometimes that happens in recessions.
5) Failure to shore up the economic soundness of the nation? Like Obama is doing, right now?
6) Coherent energy policy? Has this nation ever had one?
7) Spending without paying for it? President Obama condemmed this and increased it to higher levels.

Mitt wants to go back to those policies? We have never left them.
Obama has attacked Wall Street but hasn't done anything about it, in fact income disparity increased under his watch.


Just thought I would take a lot at your regurgitated talking points. President Barack Obama is all talk and no action. Even his greatest achievement, Obamacare, is under review.

:thumbsup:

Nonsense isn't an answer. What increased regulation was Obama able to get through Nancy Pelosi's House & Sen Reid's Senate? Hell, BHO couldn't even get a budget through Congress before the disasterous mid-terms that was a big thumbs down to Obama's presidency.

FredHayek wrote: Nonsense isn't an answer. What increased regulation was Obama able to get through Nancy Pelosi's House & Sen Reid's Senate? Hell, BHO couldn't even get a budget through Congress before the disasterous mid-terms that was a big thumbs down to Obama's presidency.

the nonsense is your response to my answer to the question by Mr. Bill about why Bush policies were responsible to the creation of the Great Recession. Your nonsense answers were to simply deflect about the failures of President Obama, which had nothing to do with my answer to Mr. Bill.

Something the Dog Said wrote:

TPP wrote:

CritiKalbILL wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:
The Republicans answer to the economy? Go back to the Bush policies that destroyed our economy.

What was the major factor that caused the recession and what percentage of that factor can you attribute to a Bush policy?

The "Housing market" was destoried by the dems. demanding that banks give loans to those that could'nt afford them. LOOK AT HISTORY FACTS, thank you franks & dodd.
G.W. should NEVER approved 1st bail-out, he sold out to U.S. the same way Daddy did... The blame stops there, move...

BS in regard to the "Housing Market". The vast majority of undeserving loans were not issued under "franks & dodd" . The crisis in the housing market was solely due to the greed of the unregulated financial industry.

As you would say "Source"...

Something the Dog Said wrote:

TPP wrote:

CritiKalbILL wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:
The Republicans answer to the economy? Go back to the Bush policies that destroyed our economy.

What was the major factor that caused the recession and what percentage of that factor can you attribute to a Bush policy?

The "Housing market" was destoried by the dems. demanding that banks give loans to those that could'nt afford them. LOOK AT HISTORY FACTS, thank you franks & dodd.
G.W. should NEVER approved 1st bail-out, he sold out to U.S. the same way Daddy did... The blame stops there, move...

BS in regard to the "Housing Market". The vast majority of undeserving loans were not issued under "franks & dodd" . The crisis in the housing market was solely due to the greed of the unregulated financial industry.

It must be nice to have such a simplistic view of life. I suppose you think WWI was only due to a single cause too.
There are myriad reasons and part of them are greed in the financial industry, but to call it un-regulated is idiotic. Ever bought a home? The paperwork is huge. Some states even require you to have an attorney to buy or sell a home.

1) Credit that was too easy to get, creating a pricing bubble.
2) A mentality that homes were an investment and they would automatically increase in price, lead to many stupid purchases.
3) The industry encouraging people to use their new found equity in obtaining second mortgages and bundling up credit card debt in their mortages.
4) A desire by both parties to increase home ownership above normal levels.

Please step away from the Dem talking points.