Romney REFUSES to Release His Birth Certificate

30 May 2012 07:03 #11 by FredHayek
I don't hate Obama, I just think he was elected without being properly vetted and didn't have the experience to actually be POTUS.

And the Republicans continuing their assault on Obama? Only makes sense to keep the man off balanced and on the defensive.
Birthergate.
Transcriptgate.
Druggate.

Did the Democrats stand down after "W" beat Gore via the Supreme Court? No, they did not consider him the true president.

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30 May 2012 08:44 #12 by Rick

Nobody that matters wrote: I'm a conservative, I don't hate Obama. I dislike his political opinions. I have ever since he started talking about them in campaign speeches. I agree with some things, but disagree with more. That makes me believe he's not the right man to be president.

So, Archer - take your attempted overgeneralizing about conservatives and stuff it up your liberal spigot.

Give archer a break, her conservative generalizations are all she has, so just let her keep making them.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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30 May 2012 10:06 #13 by archer

archer wrote: The whole birther issue is not based on logic, it's all emotion. The conservatives want Obama out of office so badly they will make up whatever lies they can to accomplish that goal. And this is NOT about his performance as president, it all started before he was elected. It seems to me that there has been a underlying climate of hate since the day Obama declared he was running for president, and it has been one conspiracy theory after another, one lie after another, one fabricated controversy after another since that day. Before you jump all over me for insinuating that "all conservatives" feel this way......find me one who doesn't. If there is one thing that unites the GOP it's their animosity towards Obama since day 1.


Ok class......reading comprehension time.......though I must say you all reacted just as I would expect you to.....Oh my, archer used the word hate and conservative in the same paragraph.....,therefore archer said all conservatives hate Obama.

No, I didn't. I said, and please read again my post, that there was a climate of hate when he was running for president.....nowhere in there did I say all conservatives hate Obama, I don't even believe that.

What I did say.....and go ahead, re-read the post class, is that all conservatives have been trying everything they can to get him out of office since day one, using whatever means they can, including lies, conspiracy, and fabricated controversies. Do you know any conservatives who haven't?

I'll accept apologies for your reading into my post that which was not there ,and attacking me for that which I did not say......

Right, like that is ever going to happen.

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30 May 2012 10:10 #14 by Reverend Revelant

archer wrote:

archer wrote: The whole birther issue is not based on logic, it's all emotion. The conservatives want Obama out of office so badly they will make up whatever lies they can to accomplish that goal. And this is NOT about his performance as president, it all started before he was elected. It seems to me that there has been a underlying climate of hate since the day Obama declared he was running for president, and it has been one conspiracy theory after another, one lie after another, one fabricated controversy after another since that day. Before you jump all over me for insinuating that "all conservatives" feel this way......find me one who doesn't. If there is one thing that unites the GOP it's their animosity towards Obama since day 1.


Ok class......reading comprehension time.......though I must say you all reacted just as I would expect you to.....Oh my, archer used the word hate and conservative in the same paragraph.....,therefore archer said all conservatives hate Obama.

No, I didn't. I said, and please read again my post, that there was a climate of hate when he was running for president.....nowhere in there did I say all conservatives hate Obama, I don't even believe that.

What I did say.....and go ahead, re-read the post class, is that all conservatives have been trying everything they can to get him out of office since day one, using whatever means they can, including lies, conspiracy, and fabricated controversies. Do you know any conservatives who haven't?

I'll accept apologies for your reading into my post that which was not there ,and attacking me for that which I did not say......

Right, like that is ever going to happen.


Well... that's a wonderful, insightful revelation. Did it take you 3 1/2 years to figure that out? I thought your original comment was trying to be an informative, intelligent opinion piece... but thank you for your explanation. I didn't know you were going for the mundane obvious.

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30 May 2012 10:11 #15 by Raees

FredHayek wrote: I don't hate Obama, I just think he was elected without being properly vetted and didn't have the experience to actually be POTUS.


But somehow Sarah Palin did? At McCain's advanced age (he would have been the oldest president) she was more than likely going to be stepping in, even though she knew little about world affairs (like why there's a North and South Korea or East and West Germany). And yet the conservatives embraced her as their messiah, and still do.

In any case, he has the experience now -- more so than his opponent. And all that gate stuff? That's not keeping him off guard. It's keeping the wingers busy and keeping their eye off the ball.

A beber y a tragar, que el mundo se va acabar.

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30 May 2012 10:19 #16 by archer

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

archer wrote:

archer wrote: The whole birther issue is not based on logic, it's all emotion. The conservatives want Obama out of office so badly they will make up whatever lies they can to accomplish that goal. And this is NOT about his performance as president, it all started before he was elected. It seems to me that there has been a underlying climate of hate since the day Obama declared he was running for president, and it has been one conspiracy theory after another, one lie after another, one fabricated controversy after another since that day. Before you jump all over me for insinuating that "all conservatives" feel this way......find me one who doesn't. If there is one thing that unites the GOP it's their animosity towards Obama since day 1.


Ok class......reading comprehension time.......though I must say you all reacted just as I would expect you to.....Oh my, archer used the word hate and conservative in the same paragraph.....,therefore archer said all conservatives hate Obama.

No, I didn't. I said, and please read again my post, that there was a climate of hate when he was running for president.....nowhere in there did I say all conservatives hate Obama, I don't even believe that.

What I did say.....and go ahead, re-read the post class, is that all conservatives have been trying everything they can to get him out of office since day one, using whatever means they can, including lies, conspiracy, and fabricated controversies. Do you know any conservatives who haven't?

I'll accept apologies for your reading into my post that which was not there ,and attacking me for that which I did not say......

Right, like that is ever going to happen.


Well... that's a wonderful, insightful revelation. Did it take you 3 1/2 years to figure that out? I thought your original comment was trying to be an informative, intelligent opinion piece... but thank you for your explanation. I didn't know you were going for the mundane obvious.


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30 May 2012 10:20 #17 by Reverend Revelant

Raees wrote:

FredHayek wrote: I don't hate Obama, I just think he was elected without being properly vetted and didn't have the experience to actually be POTUS.


But somehow Sarah Palin did? At McCain's advanced age (he would have been the oldest president) she was more than likely going to be stepping in, even though she knew little about world affairs (like why there's a North and South Korea or East and West Germany). And yet the conservatives embraced her as their messiah, and still do.

In any case, he has the experience now -- more so than his opponent. And all that gate stuff? That's not keeping him off guard. It's keeping the wingers busy and keeping their eye off the ball.

A beber y a tragar, que el mundo se va acabar.


And off his horrible record as president.

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30 May 2012 10:27 #18 by archer
Once again.....with emphasis......if the conservatives would step aside from the emotion, and really look at what they have done over the last 3+ years....they have almost guaranteed Obama reelection. Americans love their underdogs.....and the right wing of the GOP has tried every trick in the book to paint Obama as the bad guy.. By starting in on day one with attacks on his religion, his birthplace, his so called mis-spent youth, conspiracy theories about being a secret Muslim, they placed him in the role of the persecuted for no other reason that being Obama. People see that, people remember that. Now, with an election nearing and the GOP and Romney are trying to paint the election as being about the economy, about Obama's record, I believe that most people just see it as more GOP hype like the birther issue..... and are ignoring most of it. Trump did Romney no favors by reinforcing this yesterday.

yep.....keep doing what you are doing GOP........

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30 May 2012 10:29 #19 by LadyJazzer
Yup... And the racism is so obvious, that everyone can see it except the die-hard GOP...

Jus' keep doin' what yer doin'....

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30 May 2012 11:07 #20 by FredHayek

Raees wrote:

FredHayek wrote: I don't hate Obama, I just think he was elected without being properly vetted and didn't have the experience to actually be POTUS.


But somehow Sarah Palin did? At McCain's advanced age (he would have been the oldest president) she was more than likely going to be stepping in, even though she knew little about world affairs (like why there's a North and South Korea or East and West Germany). And yet the conservatives embraced her as their messiah, and still do.

In any case, he has the experience now -- more so than his opponent. And all that gate stuff? That's not keeping him off guard. It's keeping the wingers busy and keeping their eye off the ball.

A beber y a tragar, que el mundo se va acabar.


:wave: McCain is still alive. The focus that Palin was going to be POTUS soon was a terror tactic. And while Obama now does have the experience, he still appears to not know how to manage his employees or work with Congress. No wonder Clinton called Barack the amateur.

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