Romney REFUSES to Release His Birth Certificate

archer wrote: What I did say.....and go ahead, re-read the post class, is that all conservatives have been trying everything they can to get him out of office since day one, using whatever means they can, including lies, conspiracy, and fabricated controversies. Do you know any conservatives who haven't?

I haven't lied, created conspiracies or controversies. I have objected to some of his policies and ideas. I'm a conservative. You said "Before you jump all over me for insinuating that "all conservatives" feel this way......find me one who doesn't." ME.

Be carefull when you try to school someone. Quit being so condescending. Your original post accused ALL conservatives of using underhanded tactics to smear Obama. There are those of us that just don't give a crap about the guy enough to expend that much effort. It's easier to wait until either a republican comes along to beat him in an election or he term limits out. In the end, he'll just be another public speaker I won't pay to see.

Let's see what November brings. If you are wrong will it be because you represent a failed ideology or because between 2008 and 2012 the country has turned into a bunch of ignorant, racist, traitorous pond scum?

archer wrote: Once again.....with emphasis......if the conservatives would step aside from the emotion, and really look at what they have done over the last 3+ years....they have almost guaranteed Obama reelection. Americans love their underdogs.....and the right wing of the GOP has tried every trick in the book to paint Obama as the bad guy.. By starting in on day one with attacks on his religion, his birthplace, his so called mis-spent youth, conspiracy theories about being a secret Muslim, they placed him in the role of the persecuted for no other reason that being Obama. People see that, people remember that. Now, with an election nearing and the GOP and Romney are trying to paint the election as being about the economy, about Obama's record, I believe that most people just see it as more GOP hype like the birther issue..... and are ignoring most of it. Trump did Romney no favors by reinforcing this yesterday.

yep.....keep doing what you are doing GOP........

FredHayek wrote:

Raees wrote:

FredHayek wrote: I don't hate Obama, I just think he was elected without being properly vetted and didn't have the experience to actually be POTUS.

But somehow Sarah Palin did? At McCain's advanced age (he would have been the oldest president) she was more than likely going to be stepping in, even though she knew little about world affairs (like why there's a North and South Korea or East and West Germany). And yet the conservatives embraced her as their messiah, and still do.

In any case, he has the experience now -- more so than his opponent. And all that gate stuff? That's not keeping him off guard. It's keeping the wingers busy and keeping their eye off the ball.

A beber y a tragar, que el mundo se va acabar.

McCain is still alive. The focus that Palin was going to be POTUS soon was a terror tactic. And while Obama now does have the experience, he still appears to not know how to manage his employees or work with Congress. No wonder Clinton called Barack the amateur.

Who could work with a group of people who's stated objective is to obstruct ANYTHING that you do, no matter what>

Soulshiner wrote:

FredHayek wrote:

Raees wrote:

FredHayek wrote: I don't hate Obama, I just think he was elected without being properly vetted and didn't have the experience to actually be POTUS.

But somehow Sarah Palin did? At McCain's advanced age (he would have been the oldest president) she was more than likely going to be stepping in, even though she knew little about world affairs (like why there's a North and South Korea or East and West Germany). And yet the conservatives embraced her as their messiah, and still do.

In any case, he has the experience now -- more so than his opponent. And all that gate stuff? That's not keeping him off guard. It's keeping the wingers busy and keeping their eye off the ball.

A beber y a tragar, que el mundo se va acabar.

McCain is still alive. The focus that Palin was going to be POTUS soon was a terror tactic. And while Obama now does have the experience, he still appears to not know how to manage his employees or work with Congress. No wonder Clinton called Barack the amateur.

Who could work with a group of people who's stated objective is to obstruct ANYTHING that you do, no matter what>

Er... it's called a Representative Republic... the system has been used this way by both sides for many years... if you're not satisfied with it, there are places that operate under various other constitutions and governmental bodies.

FredHayek wrote:

Raees wrote:

FredHayek wrote: I don't hate Obama, I just think he was elected without being properly vetted and didn't have the experience to actually be POTUS.

But somehow Sarah Palin did? At McCain's advanced age (he would have been the oldest president) she was more than likely going to be stepping in, even though she knew little about world affairs (like why there's a North and South Korea or East and West Germany). And yet the conservatives embraced her as their messiah, and still do.

In any case, he has the experience now -- more so than his opponent. And all that gate stuff? That's not keeping him off guard. It's keeping the wingers busy and keeping their eye off the ball.

A beber y a tragar, que el mundo se va acabar.

McCain is still alive. The focus that Palin was going to be POTUS soon was a terror tactic.

He's alive because he didn't undergo the strain that comes with being president. Who's to say he wouldn't have keeled over from a heart attack at his age with that kind of responsibility?

In any case, I'm glad you agree the thought of Palin becoming president at that time was serious enough it could be used as a terror tactic.

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"George was born in New Mexico but Mitt was born in America"
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Disagreeing with Obuma does not make a person racist. There is disagreement with his approach and there are many who wish to change what is happening.

Statements like this overgeneralization makes me wonder about you archer.

It seems to me that there has been a underlying climate of hate since the day Obama declared he was running for president,

And LJ/D4S

Oh, wait...I forgot...We're dealing with bat-sh*t-crazy looney-tunes racists on the Right... My bad...

so has Romneys certificate of live birth been examined by forensic experts to determine whether or not it is authentic?

Something the Dog Said wrote: so has Romneys certificate of live birth been examined by forensic experts to determine whether or not it is authentic?

Most likely because he did not try to conceal it, hide it or even go to court to keep people from seeing it.