Senate GOP Blocks Equal Pay Legislation

05 Jun 2012 15:24 #21 by LadyJazzer

RenegadeCJ wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: You ever hear of Lilly Ledbetter?

The fact that you "don't see it now" is the usual function of not seeing what you don't wish to see...And, as usual, is pretty much irrelevant to the discussion. Hate to tell you this, but you aren't the center of the universe, and your personal anecdotal awareness isn't worth spit.


I'm not the center of the universe? Why does everyone else keep circling around me then?

I always figured you were a competitive woman....wanting to achieve on your own. The women in my circles are too...even the dem ones don't want the govt to achieve for them. They realize that equal pay also limits them....


Sorry, but where did I say this was a factor for me personally? Just keep making it up as you go... :Snooze Unlike you, where everything has to affect you personally before you see it as relevant, I worry about other people. The fact that you don't is still called "sociopathic behavior".

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05 Jun 2012 15:55 #22 by RenegadeCJ

archer wrote:

Nationally, women who work full time are paid just 77 cents for every dollar paid to their male counterparts. African-American women are paid 62 cents, and Latinas are paid just 54 cents for every dollar paid to men. The gap has been closing at a rate of less than half a cent per year since the Equal Pay Act was passed in 1963, according to nonprofit advocacy group The National Partnership for Women & Families. At this rate, women’s pay will not catch up to men’s for another 40 years.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jennagoudre ... equal-pay/

Education is a factor in income – statistics show that higher degrees lead to higher median salaries. For full-time workers data below, men earn more than women in each category.


I couldn't get the chart to post, but you can view it here
http://www.catalyst.org/publication/217 ... and-income

Still think there is no income discrimination between men and women?


From your own chart...you can't compare just avg full time wages.

Although Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that women’s median earnings are less than men’s, the reasons behind the gap are highly debated. Some studies state that the gap can be explained to a large extent by non-discriminatory factors and are based in a division of labor in the home that relies more heavily on women than on men. Women are more likely than men to have interrupted careers, taking time off for family reasons (i.e., child care or elder care), and are more likely to work part-time. Women tend to be employed in "helping" and support professions, positions that are not considered comparable in pay to men’s work. Women also tend to be clustered in lower-paying positions.28 Women also have fewer incentives to invest in market-based formal education and on-the-job training and may avoid jobs that demand large investment in skills.


Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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05 Jun 2012 16:35 #23 by Rick

RenegadeCJ wrote:

archer wrote:

Nationally, women who work full time are paid just 77 cents for every dollar paid to their male counterparts. African-American women are paid 62 cents, and Latinas are paid just 54 cents for every dollar paid to men. The gap has been closing at a rate of less than half a cent per year since the Equal Pay Act was passed in 1963, according to nonprofit advocacy group The National Partnership for Women & Families. At this rate, women’s pay will not catch up to men’s for another 40 years.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jennagoudre ... equal-pay/

Education is a factor in income – statistics show that higher degrees lead to higher median salaries. For full-time workers data below, men earn more than women in each category.


I couldn't get the chart to post, but you can view it here
http://www.catalyst.org/publication/217 ... and-income

Still think there is no income discrimination between men and women?


From your own chart...you can't compare just avg full time wages.

Although Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that women’s median earnings are less than men’s, the reasons behind the gap are highly debated. Some studies state that the gap can be explained to a large extent by non-discriminatory factors and are based in a division of labor in the home that relies more heavily on women than on men. Women are more likely than men to have interrupted careers, taking time off for family reasons (i.e., child care or elder care), and are more likely to work part-time. Women tend to be employed in "helping" and support professions, positions that are not considered comparable in pay to men’s work. Women also tend to be clustered in lower-paying positions.28 Women also have fewer incentives to invest in market-based formal education and on-the-job training and may avoid jobs that demand large investment in skills.

You beat me to it. There's also the high risk jobs that men dominate which pay much more (except for the military).

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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05 Jun 2012 17:51 #24 by PrintSmith

LadyJazzer wrote: No, the "Left" thinks women should be paid the same as men...


And the rest of the populace believes that a person should be compensated according to their value to the company regardless of race, color, creed, gender or sexual orientation.

I realize that is too complicated for you, though... Pity...

Predictable, though...

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05 Jun 2012 18:01 #25 by archer
Really? Some of you actually think that the chart that shows women make less money in EVERY category based on education levels does not indicate that women make less on average for comparable jobs. I guess nothing will convince you...or perhaps you just don't want to be convinced.

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05 Jun 2012 19:35 #26 by The Boss
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Don't we need a problem to solve before we try to come up with unenforceable solutions and giveaways for lawyers?

Let's not forget the work and pay you miss when you are called for the jury...

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05 Jun 2012 20:01 #27 by FredHayek

archer wrote: Really? Some of you actually think that the chart that shows women make less money in EVERY category based on education levels does not indicate that women make less on average for comparable jobs. I guess nothing will convince you...or perhaps you just don't want to be convinced.

Another Julia moment. If you don't think you are earning enough go someplace where they will pay you more. Or start your own business. One reason that women don't earn as much is that they aren't as willing to fight for raises.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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05 Jun 2012 20:23 #28 by pineinthegrass
If you look at wages by ethnicity, Asians apparently make the most in the US.

Why can't we get a law passed so we can all make the same as Asians do? It's not fair and it's clear discrimination! :wink:


http://www.recruiter.com/i/wage-disparities-by-ethnicity-and-education/

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05 Jun 2012 20:32 #29 by PrintSmith

archer wrote: Really? Some of you actually think that the chart that shows women make less money in EVERY category based on education levels does not indicate that women make less on average for comparable jobs. I guess nothing will convince you...or perhaps you just don't want to be convinced.

A chart from Catalyst? Really? Is there any chance you could find an organization with more of an agenda to push than Catalyst on this topic?

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05 Jun 2012 20:48 #30 by archer
PrintSmith...I'm sorry you don't like the source. Do a simple google search and you will find the same results in many places...theirs was just he most concise.i

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