final bet on product purchasing mandate?

Anyone want to make a final bet?

Vote for what you think is going to happen, not what you want to happen.

While I have no issue with the insurance mandate I think Kennedy will be the deciding vote to take it down. Maybe individual States can vote on it? Colorado requires auto insurance. I think we should require health insurance.

I wouldn't bet on something so close and it could go either way at 5-4

General consensus by pundits seems to be it won't be upheld, but we'll see shortly. 10am Eastern time I guess is the big announcement. Drum roll..............

I am curious....

...if it is upheld, could unelected peoples decide in the future what will be mandated? And where do I apply if so?

We talk a lot about mandating people buy a plan. But there are many different plans and things change. Will it be acts of congress (who we have little say over) to decide what folks will have to buy or will this be left to underlings (that we have no say over)?

popcorn eater wrote: or will this be left to underlings (that we have no say over)?

This is my big issue with Obamacare. It was so encompassing and vague that different groups of bureaucrats are actually still deciding what it means.

That is why I hope the court tells them to start all over.

This Constitutional scholar's opinion:

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I predict Obama's next speech will include something along the line of "the Supreme court is wrong and I am right".

Ryt_Rick wrote: This Constitutional scholar's opinion:

I predict Obama's next speech will include something along the line of "the Supreme court is wrong and I am right".

A constitutional scholar would have a better understanding of the issue than the SCOTUS. Do we know a constitutional scholar that could weigh in on this?

Unbelievable, but true - it appears that the individual mandate survives under the taxing authority of the Congress. Despite all of the denials that the mandate was a tax, that is precisely what the federal government has levied against the citizens of the States - a tax - and as such it is constitutional. Even more astounding, it was not Kennedy, but Chief Justice Roberts who tilted the scales of justice.

I just want to say I TOLD YOU SO. I did not want it but I was the only person that voted in my loaded poll that was right (vs. 10 early rising hopeful conservatives).

I also want to say that I realized only 1.5 hours ago that it would be upheld simply as a tax. I said to my other, "they really are not forcing anyone to do anything, they are just saying if you are in this group, you pay this tax, we have done that many times before...."

I just wish I posted it here.

So now onto the next thing, anyone want to lobby with me for a tax on people that don't buy our stuff? PM me.

Oh yeah, just a reminder, look at 285bound polls, and you will usually see the answer to what will happen politically, it will just be opposite the poll. Really look back at all election, anticipated govt decision stuff on here.

I am shocked popcorn - truly I am. The legislative intent wasn't to tax, it was to levy a punishment for not purchasing health insurance. When one hears all of the statements by all of the legislators and the president pushing for this bill, they all said that the mandate wasn't a tax. If Congress wasn't intending to tax us with this bill, how can the mandate be adjudicated as constitutional because it is precisely what the members of Congress said it wasn't - a tax?