Raees wrote: Nice to know the Pastors Conference is all Democrats. I guess Republicans aren't Christian pastors.
I don't think anyone suggested that this conference is comprised of only Democrat Pastors. The references to Democrat in this thread was in regards to the background of this "Identity" mindset and the fact that this concept of white Europeans being the remnant of the tribes of Israel was adopted by the KKK... a group primarily formed by Southern Democrats.
This group mentioned in the article, and all the "Identity" and "Covenant" and other fringe groups who have added this concept to their dogma are a minuscule part of the broader body of Christian denominations in this country.
And don't get me wrong, I think this sort of theology is foul and abhorrent, but at the same time, it has no real power among mainstream Christianity. As I mentioned above, this Anglo-Israelism dogma has been around for over 200 years, and it's never been anything but a blip on the larger picture.
otisptoadwater wrote: Thanks for the laugh LJ, how ironic that you would post such a story when your party of choice played such a large role in the establishment of the KKK.
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Still haven't figured it out, Doofus?
The Conservative Fantasy History of Civil Rights
The civil rights movement, once a controversial left-wing fringe, has grown deeply embedded into the fabric of our national story. This is a salutary development, but a problematic one for conservatives, who are the direct political descendants of (and, in the case of some of the older members of the movement, the exact same people as) the strident opponents of the civil rights movement. It has thus become necessary for conservatives to craft an alternative story, one that absolves their own ideology of any guilt. The right has dutifully set itself to its task, circulating its convoluted version of history, honing it to the point where it can be repeated by any defensive College Republican in his dorm room. Kevin Williamson’s cover story in National Review is the latest version of what is rapidly congealing into conservatism’s revisionist dogma.
Williamson crafts a tale in which the Republican Party is and always has been the greatest friend the civil rights cause ever had. The Republican takeover of the white South had absolutely nothing to do with civil rights, the revisionist case proclaims, except insofar as white Southerners supported Republicans because they were more pro-civil rights.
His story completely ignores the explicit revolt by conservative Southerners against the northern liberal civil rights wing, beginning with Strom Thurmond, who formed a third-party campaign in 1948 in protest against Harry Truman’s support for civil rights. Thurmond received 49 percent of the vote in Louisiana, 72 percent in South Carolina, 80 percent in Alabama, and 87 percent in Mississippi. He later, of course, switched to the Republican Party.
Williamson concedes, with inadvertently hilarious understatement, that the party “went through a long dry spell on civil-rights progress” — that would be the century that passed between Reconstruction and President Eisenhower’s minimalist response to massive resistance in 1957. But after this wee dry spell, the party resumed and maintained its natural place as civil rights champion. To the extent that Republicans replaced Democrats in the South, Williamson sees their support for civil rights as the cause. (“Republicans did begin to win some southern House seats, and in many cases segregationist Democrats were thrown out by southern voters in favor of civil-rights Republicans.”) As his one data point, Williamson cites the victory of George Bush in Texas over a Democrat who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act. He correctly cites Bush’s previous record of moderation on civil rights but neglects to mention that Bush also opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Raees wrote: Nice to know the Pastors Conference is all Democrats. I guess Republicans aren't Christian pastors.
I don't think anyone suggested that this conference is comprised of only Democrat Pastors. The references to Democrat in this thread was in regards to the background of this "Identity" mindset and the fact that this concept of white Europeans being the remnant of the tribes of Israel was adopted by the KKK... a group primarily formed by Southern Democrats.
Ah, so Southern Democrats are a remnant of the tribes of Israel.
Raees wrote: Nice to know the Pastors Conference is all Democrats. I guess Republicans aren't Christian pastors.
I don't think anyone suggested that this conference is comprised of only Democrat Pastors. The references to Democrat in this thread was in regards to the background of this "Identity" mindset and the fact that this concept of white Europeans being the remnant of the tribes of Israel was adopted by the KKK... a group primarily formed by Southern Democrats.
Ah, so Southern Democrats are a remnant of the tribes of Israel.
Good to know. :thumbsup:
Southern Democrats, Southern Republicans, any and all whites that have adopted the "Covenant" dogma. Is that to hard to understand. Maybe you need to read up on "Identity" and "Covenant" groups... because you are sounding silly at the moment.
Yep, those political factions from over 100 years ago really have a bearing on today. Don't forget that it was a Southern Democrat who championed the Civil Rights Act 100 years later.
You are really grasping at straws with the Southern Democrat = KKK 100 years ago line.
When you plant ice you're going to harvest wind. - Robert Hunter
Fact: In the 1950s, President Eisenhower, a Republican, integrated the US military and promoted civil rights for minorities. Eisenhower pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1957. One of Eisenhower's primary political opponents on civil rights prior to 1957 was none other than Lyndon Johnson, then the Democratic Senate Majority Leader. LBJ had voted the straight segregationist line until he changed his position and supported the 1957 Act.
Fact: The historic Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress. In the House, 80 percent of the Republicans and 63 percent of the Democrats voted in favor. In the Senate, 82 percent of the Republicans and 69 percent of the Democrats voted for it.
Soulshiner wrote: Yep, those political factions from over 100 years ago really have a bearing on today. Don't forget that it was a Southern Democrat who championed the Civil Rights Act 100 years later.
You are really grasping at straws with the Southern Democrat = KKK 100 years ago line.
I'm not reaching for anything. I was simply giving some insight to the numerous fringe groups that have adopted the "British Israelism" dogma. Like I said above... you can find all sides of political persuasions among these groups. And as the liberal "outrage" of the day... this is rather weak. Get back to me when one of these members is running for president or something like that. Otherwise... these people exist like a little rash... annoying at times, they won't go away but they affect barely nothing... neither religiously or politically.
Soulshiner wrote: Yep, those political factions from over 100 years ago really have a bearing on today. Don't forget that it was a Southern Democrat who championed the Civil Rights Act 100 years later.
You are really grasping at straws with the Southern Democrat = KKK 100 years ago line.
He's been doing it so long, he still hasn't figured out how lame it is...
Raees wrote: Nice to know the Pastors Conference is all Democrats. I guess Republicans aren't Christian pastors.
I don't think anyone suggested that this conference is comprised of only Democrat Pastors. The references to Democrat in this thread was in regards to the background of this "Identity" mindset and the fact that this concept of white Europeans being the remnant of the tribes of Israel was adopted by the KKK... a group primarily formed by Southern Democrats.
Ah, so Southern Democrats are a remnant of the tribes of Israel.
Good to know. :thumbsup:
Maybe you need to read up on "Identity" and "Covenant" groups... because you are sounding silly at the moment
Good. That's why I was going for because this whole discussion is silly. :thumbsup:
Raees wrote: Nice to know the Pastors Conference is all Democrats. I guess Republicans aren't Christian pastors.
I don't think anyone suggested that this conference is comprised of only Democrat Pastors. The references to Democrat in this thread was in regards to the background of this "Identity" mindset and the fact that this concept of white Europeans being the remnant of the tribes of Israel was adopted by the KKK... a group primarily formed by Southern Democrats.
Ah, so Southern Democrats are a remnant of the tribes of Israel.
Good to know. :thumbsup:
Maybe you need to read up on "Identity" and "Covenant" groups... because you are sounding silly at the moment
Good. That's why I was going for because this whole discussion is silly. :thumbsup:
