FINALLY able to talk about the TRUTH in PCSO

18 Jul 2010 09:04 - 18 Jul 2010 10:04 #1 by Let the Wildlife run PC
You know, I woke up this morning and understanding what and why TGregg keeps denying anything we post about what is really going on in the Sheriffs Office.

TGregg, ALL the people that have known, seen and been involved with the big "C" word with the Sheriffs Office have NEVER had a voice. These things your reading are very much TRUE. BUT, that there are so many, many other things that cannot be talked about still, because of fear of retribution. But I was looking at someone like you, never hearing these things before, I guess it does seem a little un-real. I'm sure their are more folks than yourself reading these things, and think we're NUTS, and that we meet every Thursday night, swap "stories" or how to destroy Fred". You never stop to think, "how can so many people be saying these things, we're not a group, we don't know each other, we are total strangers to each other, and yet all have something to say, or seen, or were a part and not wanting to be a part, of the big "C" word.

Truth of the matter is: This web-site is the first in 12 years that we're being allowed to speak. I guess it would all be a little over-whelming to hear all of these things, when people had Fred on a pedistol because of the High School situation, him shaking your hand and knowing you by first name, and your childrens names, smiling, giving you the impression that "he's the most wonderful man in the world". It's really funny what the local "media" does for a person.

WE, have never been allowed a voice. We did a little back when Lora A. was the editor of the Flume, she always did both sides of the story. But Tom Locke has obviously been spoken to by the Sheriffs Office. I'm sure Monte Gore had a hand in that. As you can see in the Flume, there are no conversations being addressed about this campaign, or not many, and it's obviously a heated campaign. I personally wish that Lora was there now!!

Then take a look at the other 2 local web-sites, (PC&PB). People have tried and tried and tried to let the community know what IS REALLY GOING ON in our County for 12 years!!! But again, someone from the Sheriffs Office put a "halt" on anything negative about the Sheriffs Office be posted. Both web-sites decide on their own rules, make them up as they go, boot people off, cut up their comments, absolutely violating our constitutional rights. There are many people who believe that money must exchange hands to not let the community know what is really going on behind closed doors.

Do you realize how frustrating this has been for folks to not be able to tell the truth for 12 years? Threatened by our wonderful Sheriffs Office if we do say anything. This is very real. People have been holding law-breaking situations that they knew of, in their souls for years, many people have moved or been forced to move if they say anything. THIS is very real.

So ya, with folks able to finally speak out FINALLY because of this web-site, and a Denver Police Officer protecting our rights, because he is a real police officer, upholding the Constitution of the United States :love2: , as it should be, I guess it would be hard to hear all of this.... you're getting it all at once and never heard these things before...

WE CAN FINALLY SPEAK OUT!!! Imagine if you had to hold in situations you KNEW were against the Law, and you couldn't do anything about it, couldn't speak out because of threats?

Thank you 285Bound for allowing our voices to finally be heard :biggrin:

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18 Jul 2010 09:19 #2 by shilohloki
I couldn't have said it better. I never thought I would be able to talk about this stuff either, but when Graves came along it was like suddenly we had a voice! Even he was quite taken aback by the sheer amount of stories and problems he was approached with.
I was even still a little fearful "coming out" with this stuff if you will on Pinecam, fearing retribution from the SO. I still do in fact, but the more of us that do it, the more strength we have. And the fact that higher agencies are now investigating also gives me more of a sense of security.
I am so glad we have this site!!! :heart:

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18 Jul 2010 09:32 #3 by mtntrekker
frankly i thought lora stank a lot of the time. i am more impressed with tom locke. if you want the other side published go talk to him. i am not affiliated with him in any way. he has just been open to people stepping forward and providing information.

thank you for this forum. about time for king fred to stop making his own laws and to start living by the ones in effect. and to stop the unprofessionalism. he is an embarrassment to this county. "duh i am your sheriff, duh i know there are some laws somewhere but duh i have my own, duh"

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18 Jul 2010 09:39 #4 by shilohloki
rofllol rofllol rofllol rofllol
Or "Ditto!"

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18 Jul 2010 11:30 #5 by shilohloki
OOOPSY! Somebody cut and pasted this thread into the other board - not going well over there!

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18 Jul 2010 15:52 #6 by mama bear
wow, I thought I was the only one living in fear until this forum. Guess I'm not alone!

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18 Jul 2010 15:54 #7 by JMC
Quit giving PC ideas of what thinking adults want.. LOL.

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18 Jul 2010 17:05 #8 by shilohloki
Don't worry, JMC, it goes in one ear and right out the other!!

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18 Jul 2010 18:22 #9 by Let the Wildlife run PC
I rest my case......
again, thank-you 285bound for letting us have our Civil and Constitutional rights :thumbsup:

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18 Jul 2010 18:31 #10 by CC
This one was interesting to.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:12 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
DSVshiloh wrote:
285Bound has moved the threads with unsubstantiated rumors into "The Ring" which is un-moderated and usually only visible to registered users. For tonight only, The Ring has been opened up to guests.


Good information, thanks! And thanks for writing that they are "unsubstantiated rumors" That is key here!

I always find it interesting that if unsubstantiated rumors are started here at Pinecam we get threatened with all sorts of things including legal action?

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It's one of the reasons they are kept away from here! Who needs the constant threats? (Does that happen over there at all? Just curious.)
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