If a Scientologist ran for President

Raees wrote:

Entitlement Whore wrote:

Raees wrote: Scientology and LDS: both far-fetched stories spread by white guys.

Yeah, it would matter to me. It shows a person who can get sucked in by the most improbable story. I wouldn't want that kind of guy in the White House.

And what about a Christian candidate (like President Obama)? You have all that improbable stuff like raising from the dead, multiplying fishes and matzoh, healing people with touch... and I haven't even got to the "miracles" in the Hebrew scriptures yet (The Old Testament). You want that sort of guy in the White House, who has gotten sucked into all that Christian myth?

There's a difference between a group of people writing chapters in The Bible and some guy saying he was visited by an angel who gave him golden plates but he lost them and dictated his book out of a hat (twice in two different versions)... or a science fiction writer who comes up with a story about a mysterious group of advanced beings on another planet... as a successor to a self-help program.

But consider this, what if a fake theology created a large group of fine outstanding citizens?
Most of the Mormons I know seem to be good, decent people who honor family and are moral. I know some of the early days were crazy in the religion with the polygamy, but many older religions also had polygamy. And some of the Popes were pretty sketchy too.

Raees wrote:

Entitlement Whore wrote:

Raees wrote: Scientology and LDS: both far-fetched stories spread by white guys.

Yeah, it would matter to me. It shows a person who can get sucked in by the most improbable story. I wouldn't want that kind of guy in the White House.

And what about a Christian candidate (like President Obama)? You have all that improbable stuff like raising from the dead, multiplying fishes and matzoh, healing people with touch... and I haven't even got to the "miracles" in the Hebrew scriptures yet (The Old Testament). You want that sort of guy in the White House, who has gotten sucked into all that Christian myth?

There's a difference between a group of people writing chapters in The Bible and some guy saying he was visited by an angel who gave him golden plates but he lost them and dictated his book out of a hat (twice in two different versions)... or a science fiction writer who comes up with a story about a mysterious group of advanced beings on another planet... as a successor to a self-help program.

What difference does it make WHEN someone wrote what. And which people wrote what chapters of the Bible? In the Hebrew scriptures we have angels going before Moses, Joshua was visited by an angel, Hagar was visited by and angel, two angels came into Sodom... (I could go on)... All of these people I just mentioned apparently at some point was "saying" that they saw an angel. What makes their visitation by an angel any more or less valid than Joseph Smith being visited by an angel?

So... you wouldn't vote for a Mormon or a Scientologist because of their doctrinal foundations, but you're alright with Christians who weave a just as fantastic story about events in the Hebrew and Greek scriptures? You're not making any sort of logical sense at all.

Soulshiner wrote: You don't care or you do? Your responses seem to indicate both.

Now this is a prime example of why liberals and conservatives can't understand each other. We just look at questions and read them completely opposite. So, enough of that... the question was: If a Scientologist ran for president, would that automatically count them out from getting your vote?

My answer was no, I could care less what relgion the president is, that includes no religion. Nowhere did I say I would disqualify Obama for being a Christian. I disqualified him in my mind as soon as I heard the good reverend's words and that he was close to the Obamas for 20 years. I believe that church is on the radical fringe somewhat like the Westboro douchebags.

So I could deal with someone who believes in ufos or whatever, but I can't accept anyone who assosiates with someone who IS a racist and who does despise the great country.

I hope I cleared that up.

Being a fine, upstanding delusional person is still a delusional person. I'm fairly certain that the Spanish Inquisition was a bunch of fine, upstanding Catholics who thought they were "doing the right thing" by burning Jews at the stake who refused to convert.

So, all the liberals on this forum seem to be a bunch of bigots. Who would have thought it?

Gee, so all the neo-cons are either ignorant of historical facts, or choose to deflect from them. Who knew?

(That word "ALL" is a b*tch, ain't it?)

Democracy4Sale wrote: Gee, so all the neo-cons are either ignorant of historical facts, or choose to deflect from them. Who knew?

(That word "ALL" is a b*tch, ain't it?)

I suppose LJ believes that Wright is not a racist.

...Oh, we now return you to your rant about Scientology = Mormonism (which was NOT what the OP posted...)

Arlen wrote: So, all the liberals on this forum seem to be a bunch of bigots.

Not sure I agree with you a hundred percent on your police work, there, Lou. But I'm surprised you'd admit in a round about way that you'd vote for a Muslim.

Democracy4Sale wrote: ...Oh, we now return you to your rant about Scientology = Mormonism (which was NOT what the OP posted...)

You know that's why the question was asked... what other reference to reality does it have?