US sets record temperatures

09 Jul 2012 19:56 #21 by ScienceChic
Thermometer records only go back to 1870ish, proxies based on tree rings, ice cores, ocean sediments, etc push back records hundreds of thousands of years.

We’re Already Topping Dust Bowl Temperatures — Imagine What’ll Happen If We Fail To Stop 10°F Warming
By Joe Romm on Jul 8, 2012

Why is this bad news? Because the Earth has warmed only a bit more than 1°F since the catastrophic Dust Bowl — and we are poised to warm an astounding 9-11°F this century if we stay anywhere near our current greenhouse gas emissions path.

A 1990 Journal of Geophysical Research study, ]“Potential evapotranspiration and the likelihood of future drought,” projected that severe to extreme drought in the United States, then occurring every 20 years or so, could become an every-other-year phenomenon by mid-century.

Aiguo Dai of the National Center for Atmospheric Research, in his 2010 study, “Drought under global warming: a review,” had a similar conclusion.


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09 Jul 2012 20:30 #22 by Raees
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But Rush said there's no global warming!

https://p.twimg.com/AxaHjqkCIAA4Gz5.jpg:large

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09 Jul 2012 21:14 #23 by Blazer Bob

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09 Jul 2012 21:41 #24 by Raees
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Since Jan. 1, the United States has set more than 40,000 hot temperature records, but fewer than 6,000 cold temperature records, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

http://phys.org/news/2012-07-summer-glo ... tists.html

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10 Jul 2012 08:16 #25 by mtntrekker
http://phys.org/news/2012-07-summer-glo ... tists.html

These are the kinds of extremes climate scientists have predicted will come with climate change, although it's far too early to say that is the cause. Nor will they say global warming is the reason 3,215 daily high temperature records were set in the month of June.

Scientifically linking individual weather events to climate change takes intensive study, complicated mathematics, computer models and lots of time. Sometimes it isn't caused by global warming. Weather is always variable; freak things happen.


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10 Jul 2012 08:18 #26 by mtntrekker
I have to wonder if wildfires continue to be problematic if firefighters will stop fighting them and just let them run their course, focusing on evacuating the people.

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10 Jul 2012 09:02 #27 by FredHayek

mtntrekker wrote: I have to wonder if wildfires continue to be problematic if firefighters will stop fighting them and just let them run their course, focusing on evacuating the people.


Fox was running some interesting numbers comparing forest fires in the Great Depression versus the average these days, 40 to 7 nowdays ratio.

This could of course be due to different factors, forest firefighters then don't have our technology.
Hard to slurry bomb with biplanes.

And the Forest Service then might have been more willing to let people get burned out of their cabins.

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10 Jul 2012 11:53 #28 by PrintSmith

Raees wrote: But Rush said there's no global warming!

https://p.twimg.com/AxaHjqkCIAA4Gz5.jpg:large

Care to let us know where those temps were taken? Back in '66 when my family bought a new home out near Hampden and Monaco in Denver, we were pretty much the southern edge of Denver. Monaco turned to a dirt road after it crossed Hampden Avenue. Now the development has pretty much made Castle Rock a bedroom community. Think the miles of asphalt and concrete soaking up the daytime rays might raise the night time temps a bit? It's called a heat sink - absorbing heat and then slowly releasing it and it has absolutely nothing to do with climate change - anthropogenic or otherwise. It might, however, alter the air patterns in the surrounding area a bit and have an impact on the local weather, the degree of cooling in the night and how long snow covers the ground after a storm. Just a thought . . . . . . .

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10 Jul 2012 13:58 #29 by Raees
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Thank you. Multiply that heat sink effect by 10's of thousands of growing cities adding more concrete all the time and what do you think happens?

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10 Jul 2012 14:01 #30 by FredHayek

Raees wrote: Thank you. Multiply that heat sink effect by 10's of thousands of growing cities adding more concrete all the time and what do you think happens?


Creates micro-climates?

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