Mitt Romney Implicated in Son-Of-Boss Tax Scam

20 Jul 2012 11:49 - 20 Jul 2012 11:52 #21 by LadyJazzer

Something the Dog Said wrote: Interesting that PS and other's decry the attacks from the left on Mitt, yet when asked in a previous thread to provide positive reasons to vote for Mitt, not a single one was offered. Instead we get negative attacks ad nauseum on President Obama by the dozens every day here. Yet the conservatives are crying victim when the flaws of Mitt are exposed.


We've been asking for them to provide some kind of positive "Why I support Mitt" ever since he sewed up the delegates and became the presumptive nominee... They have yet to provide ANYTHING except: "He's not Obama." I get that. They don't have anything else.

This tax-avoiding slimebag is looking worse and worse. Good luck with that... The fact that "he is a businessman" has been shown to be a non-issue because of the way he does business. "He created jobs" has shown to be a joke--He's destroyed as many or more than he created, and all he did was create more wealth for his buddies. His record as Governor is why he won't run on it...

Dream on.

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20 Jul 2012 11:49 #22 by PrintSmith

Something the Dog Said wrote: Interesting that PS and other's decry the attacks from the left on Mitt, yet when asked in a previous thread to provide positive reasons to vote for Mitt, not a single one was offered. Instead we get negative attacks ad nauseum on President Obama by the dozens every day here. Yet the conservatives are crying victim when the flaws of Mitt are exposed.

There are not may positives as a reason to vote for Mitt from my perspective, but there are more positives to vote for him than there are to vote for Obama. One or the other of them is going to be elected to be the next president of the union and I learned my lesson about voting my conscience when I voted third party in 1992. What I essentially did then was help the candidate that I least supported get elected and I'm not foolish enough to make that mistake again.

What I do enjoy, however, is watching people like yourself say that the ACA isn't the largest tax increase in the history of the union while at the same time using the very same metric by which that is true, raw dollars, to support the attacks against oil companies earning "record profits". If you bothered to take any notice, my criticism has been of Obama's policies, not his person. The left is more focused on Romney's person than they are his policies. That's mainly because they have no policies of Obama's to really support after 4 years in office but no one challenged him in the primaries this time around. If Clinton had decided to run for president in 2012, the Democrats would have dropped Obama faster than a bad habit, which is exactly what I hope the union has the smarts to do come November.

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20 Jul 2012 11:52 #23 by Reverend Revelant

Democracy4Sale wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote: Interesting that PS and other's decry the attacks from the left on Mitt, yet when asked in a previous thread to provide positive reasons to vote for Mitt, not a single one was offered. Instead we get negative attacks ad nauseum on President Obama by the dozens every day here. Yet the conservatives are crying victim when the flaws of Mitt are exposed.


We've been asking for them to provide some kind of positive "Why I support Mitt" ever since he sewed up the delegates and became the presumptive nominee... They have yet to provide ANYTHING except: "He's not Obama." I get that. They don't have anything else.

This tax-avoiding slimebag is looking worse and worse. Good luck with that...


Hey Columbo... show me how Romney was implicated in this "boss-of-son"scam? (she has me on ignore, so someone quote me so this bozo can see how stupid she is)

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20 Jul 2012 11:59 #24 by PrintSmith
I'd do it Twin, but she seems to have everyone who disagrees with her on ignore - which is why she spends so much of her time in the echo chamber regurgitating everything she hears in there.

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20 Jul 2012 13:00 - 20 Jul 2012 13:21 #25 by plaidvillain
God you bozos are too much. Saul Alinsky, SpinSmith? Seriously? Ever hear the term "swift-boating"? I suppose Saul Alinsky was behind that little character assassination of John Kerry. You are a shameless hypocrite.

Affordable Care Act. Bin Laden dead. Scores of other Al-Qaeda dead, captured, removed. Dmestic terrorists quelched. Lily Ledbetter Act. Mexican border more secure than ever. ...go on?...it's easy enough to do. Here...since you're too lazy.... http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazi ... 35755.php/

FIFTY quick tidbits for all the "he can't run on his record" fools...but yeah, he hasn't done anything. Nothing YOU like, anyway.

Hey SpinSmith...do everyone a favor - click the heels of your ruby slippers three times and say, "there's no place like the 19th century" - maybe you'll disappear.

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20 Jul 2012 13:03 #26 by LadyJazzer
Isn't it great...The Dems learn from past experience and pull the SwiftBoating back on them and they scream like wounded buffaloes. Payback is a b*tch, ain't it? Wait until you see what they can do with filibusters in the Senate, (in the unlikely event the GOP takes over)...And wait until you see what they can do if they get enough votes to override the obstructionists....

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20 Jul 2012 15:04 #27 by Reverend Revelant

Democracy4Sale wrote: Isn't it great...The Dems learn from past experience and pull the SwiftBoating back on them and they scream like wounded buffaloes. Payback is a b*tch, ain't it? Wait until you see what they can do with filibusters in the Senate, (in the unlikely event the GOP takes over)...And wait until you see what they can do if they get enough votes to override the obstructionists....


Big difference... the Swift Boaters were telling the truth... you're outright lying... as the lack of facts from you on this topic proves. You're a fookin' idiot.

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20 Jul 2012 15:20 #28 by PrintSmith

plaidvillain wrote: God you bozos are too much. Saul Alinsky, SpinSmith? Seriously? Ever hear the term "swift-boating"? I suppose Saul Alinsky was behind that little character assassination of John Kerry. You are a shameless hypocrite.

Really now PV - the first time you ever saw a political party assassinate the character of a political rival was when John Kerry was running for president? Really? What a sheltered life you must have lead up until then.

plaidvillain wrote: Affordable Care Act. Bin Laden dead. Scores of other Al-Qaeda dead, captured, removed. Dmestic terrorists quelched. Lily Ledbetter Act. Mexican border more secure than ever. ...go on?...it's easy enough to do. Here...since you're too lazy.... http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazi ... 35755.php/

FIFTY quick tidbits for all the "he can't run on his record" fools...but yeah, he hasn't done anything. Nothing YOU like, anyway.

Hey SpinSmith...do everyone a favor - click the heels of your ruby slippers three times and say, "there's no place like the 19th century" - maybe you'll disappear.

The majority of the populace who votes doesn't like the ACA PV - and hasn't since the Democrats passed it using bribery and coercion to achieve that result. Why, the Democrats were handed their largest single election defeat in the House of Representatives in the wake of their actions. What does that tell you about what the citizens of the States think of the ACA? You think they like it more than ever now that the truth about it being a tax has been exposed? Obama and the Democrats go around telling everyone that it isn't a tax and then send in their lawyers to argue it's constitutional because it is a tax and you don't see the hypocrisy in that at all, right? Not only that, they actually then have the temerity to continue to say it isn't a tax after the Supreme Court rules that the only reason the kingpin of the legislation, the individual mandate, is constitutional is because it's a tax?

If the "swiftboating" of Kerry was the first example of character assassination in the political arena that you have ever seen, you have lived a very sheltered life PV. I know for a fact that character assassination has been a part of the politics of our union for as long as we've had a union. My disagreements with Obama are policy based. I don't attack the man, I attack his policies. I don't attack you, I attack your ideology. You, however, along with SFB, seem incomplete unless you issue a personal attack aimed at me - such as your ruby slipper comment above. And yes PV, it does remind me of the seminal work of Saul Alinsky that you and other "progressives" so regularly employ:

RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid “un-fun” activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)

RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

You've got one problem PV - I don't hurt alone and I don't concede the fight. You want to talk about shameless hypocrisy? Try supporting the argument that oil companies are earning "record profits" and denying that the ACA is the largest tax hike in the history of the union. Notice that none of the "progressives" have bothered to respond to this yet? Why do you think that is PV? Because it exposes the left's hypocrisy perhaps? The left has been applying the standard of raw dollars to oil company profits for at least 3 years now - but let the right apply that same metric to the tax hike contained in the ACA and the left goes nuts and starts talking about percentage of GDP and adjusted dollars - the very same argument that they rejected completely when talking about the oil companies and their "record profits". Go ahead PV - tell us once more how oil companies are earning "record profits" but the ACA isn't the largest tax hike in the history of the union you shameless hypocrite.

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20 Jul 2012 15:52 #29 by navycpo7

plaidvillain wrote: God you bozos are too much. Saul Alinsky, SpinSmith? Seriously? Ever hear the term "swift-boating"? I suppose Saul Alinsky was behind that little character assassination of John Kerry. You are a shameless hypocrite.

Affordable Care Act. Bin Laden dead. Scores of other Al-Qaeda dead, captured, removed. Dmestic terrorists quelched. Lily Ledbetter Act. Mexican border more secure than ever. ...go on?...it's easy enough to do. Here...since you're too lazy.... http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazi ... 35755.php/

FIFTY quick tidbits for all the "he can't run on his record" fools...but yeah, he hasn't done anything. Nothing YOU like, anyway.

Hey SpinSmith...do everyone a favor - click the heels of your ruby slippers three times and say, "there's no place like the 19th century" - maybe you'll disappear.


Bin laden dead
Yep sure is, that god Seal Team 6 did thier job, and obama got the intel by continuing Bush era interrogation techniques.

Al Qaeda dead, captured removed, yep take a look at GITMO abunch of them down there, obama had really nothing to do with those killings. If he did, give me the proof

Domestic terrorist quelched, your either real stupid(don't think so) or naive(not). If they are quelched then we should not being having the problems we are having. Seems there is always something in the news about it.

Lily Lebetter act, yep

Mexico border more secure NOT, better think twice about that one. Lets see, Fast and furious, major drug tunnels just found, and per excutive order, lots of illegals are now legal.

Lets see troops out of Iraq. No thanks to Obama, he tried to extend it. Damn good thing President Bush signed the SOFA in 2008. It called for total withdrawal of troops from Iraq by end of 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.-Iraq_ ... _Agreement

Lets talk about this transparcey thing that Obama swore would be his thing that never happened.

Lets talk how the jobs they say were made and the actual numbers for some crazy reason never seem to match

Could go on and on, what would be great is just for once in the last 30 years to have a President that tells the truth, is honest with the American people and have a congress more concerned with this country than how much corruption they can cause. Rangel comes to mind along with some Republicans, Pelosi speaks out of both sides of her mouth. I don't like Romney either so you don't even want to go there with me. They are both lousy, do alot of talking and nothing happens.

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