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Government grants cause mass murder
24 Jul 2012 13:14 #3
by CinnamonGirl
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This is the last straw. We need grant control laws unless we want to see more and more of these kinds of mass murders.
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24 Jul 2012 20:29 #7
by ScienceChic
All PhD students get their tuition paid for, and stipends as part of their acceptance. Some programs require that after the students formally join a laboratory (by the end of their 1st year) in which to conduct their thesis research that the tuition cost for the student be transferred from the school/department to the PI (Principal Investigator). Some PIs then expect the students to apply for grants themselves, but most support the students with their own research grants, often R01's from the NIH but also grants from the NSF and to a lesser extent biotechs/industry. A Principal Investigator "employs" post-docs (those who have gotten their PhD's and are getting more training before taking a tenure-track permanent university position or moving on to industry or education), graduate students (aka cheap slave labor) 
, and technicians. The American public in return for this investment, gets research that translates into new technology and disease treatments that increase our country's GDP and a continued supply of educated scientists.
Stop funding them...see how fast our country goes down the toilet. The powerhouses in this world are the ones who have the highest scientific investment and output.
When I was in graduate school the going rate was $15K (after withholdings, that was $1,000/month to live on); $26K still isn't a whole lot but he obviously had an agenda and prioritized his spending in a most unfortunate manner.
TLGT, you're hilarious! lol
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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Sheesh, it's not "the Obama way", this is how it has been for decades.FredHayek wrote: People on my Facebook were wondering where the shooter, a poor college student, got the money for guns, ammo, and bombs. He earned it the Obama way, by goverment grant.
Looks like the NIH should have spent that money on treating that poor boy instead.
All PhD students get their tuition paid for, and stipends as part of their acceptance. Some programs require that after the students formally join a laboratory (by the end of their 1st year) in which to conduct their thesis research that the tuition cost for the student be transferred from the school/department to the PI (Principal Investigator). Some PIs then expect the students to apply for grants themselves, but most support the students with their own research grants, often R01's from the NIH but also grants from the NSF and to a lesser extent biotechs/industry. A Principal Investigator "employs" post-docs (those who have gotten their PhD's and are getting more training before taking a tenure-track permanent university position or moving on to industry or education), graduate students (aka cheap slave labor) , and technicians. The American public in return for this investment, gets research that translates into new technology and disease treatments that increase our country's GDP and a continued supply of educated scientists.Stop funding them...see how fast our country goes down the toilet. The powerhouses in this world are the ones who have the highest scientific investment and output.
When I was in graduate school the going rate was $15K (after withholdings, that was $1,000/month to live on); $26K still isn't a whole lot but he obviously had an agenda and prioritized his spending in a most unfortunate manner.
TLGT, you're hilarious! lol
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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24 Jul 2012 20:47 #9
by ScienceChic
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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Unless you've hung out here on a regular basis and/or been posting regularly (cuz you're crazy??!!), it's easy to mistake TLGT's harmless sarcasm with his genuine attempts at trolling. Let's give hillfarmer a break! :thumbsup: hillfarmer, thank you for smacking TLGT down, he deserves it every time! tongue:
Frankly, I'm highly disappointed that it took TLGT this long to start bashing on us neuroscientists.
Frankly, I'm highly disappointed that it took TLGT this long to start bashing on us neuroscientists.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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