Romney back on the "Apology Tour"/"Exceptionalism" lies...

24 Jul 2012 14:02 - 24 Jul 2012 14:06 #1 by LadyJazzer
Well, when you don't have anything else, you go back to what [you've been told] you "know"...

Well, it didn't take long to find the truth... The usual hatchet job by The Heritage Foundation and FauxNews:

Fact Checker: Obama's 'Apology Tour'
Washington Post


The Facts

Most of the criticism stems from a series of speeches that Obama made shortly after taking office, when he was trying to introduce himself to the world and also signify a break with the Bush administration with new policies, such as pledging to close the detainee facility at Guantanamo Bay.

This is typical of many new presidents. George W. Bush, for instance, quickly broke with Clinton administration policy on dealings with North Korea, the Kyoto climate change treaty and the international criminal court, to name a few.

Rove built his case around four quotes made by Obama:

Mr. Obama told the French (the French!) that America "has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive" toward Europe. In Prague, he said America has "a moral responsibility to act" on arms control because only the U.S. had "used a nuclear weapon." In London, he said that decisions about the world financial system were no longer made by "just Roosevelt and Churchill sitting in a room with a brandy" -- as if that were a bad thing. And in Latin America, he said the U.S. had not "pursued and sustained engagement with our neighbors" because we "failed to see that our own progress is tied directly to progress throughout the Americas."

In none of these cases does Obama actually use a word at all similar to "apologize." The Latin American comment might have resonance with Rove's old boss, since that was Bush's charge against the Clinton administration in the 2000 campaign. The Prague and London quotes are not apologies at all. The Paris quote, which is often cited as an apology, is taken out of context.

In Paris, Obama was trying to rebuild relations with Europe, where opposition to the Iraq war had run high. The quote in Paris often cited by conservatives is this: "In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."

That doesn't sound like much of an apology, more of a statement of fact that few international-relations experts would quarrel with. But Obama was making the case that both sides had misunderstood each other, and so he also said: "But in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual, but can also be insidious. Instead of recognizing the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans choose to blame America for much of what's bad."

The two sentences are a matched pair; there is no apology.

The Heritage Foundation list is also a stretch. Again, nothing akin to the word "apology" is ever used by Obama. In most of these cases, Obama is trying to make a clear distinction with his predecessor, much as Ronald Reagan did with Jimmy Carter, or George W. Bush with Clinton. Guantanamo or the war on terrorism figures in four of the so-called apologies -- and it is noteworthy during the 2000 campaign that Obama's GOP opponent, Sen. John McCain, also had said he would close the facility. Obama's comments express a disagreement over policy, not a distaste for the nation.

Another Heritage example is a speech Obama gave in April 2009 to the Turkish parliament, in which he was trying to urge that country to come to terms with its tragic history with the Armenians: "The United States is still working through some of our own darker periods in our history. Facing the Washington Monument that I spoke of is a memorial of Abraham Lincoln, the man who freed those who were enslaved even after Washington led our Revolution."

But compare what Obama said to what George W. Bush said at Senegal's Goree Island in 2003. Bush called the U.S. constitution flawed and said that America is still troubled by the legacy of slavery. This does not seem like an apology, either -- but it is even more sharply framed than Obama's comments.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-c ... _tour.html

Imagine my surprise... Another load of lies from the usual sources... God, don't you wackos ever get tired of spouting easily disproven garbage from your FauxNews/Heritage Foundation/Karl Rove bullsh*t sources? I guess Romney is trying to prop himself up, again, against talking-points that the conservatives have no defense for...again.

rofllol :lol:

Too easy...

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24 Jul 2012 14:03 #2 by LadyJazzer
I'm surprised that Bear, Arlen, ad nauseum didn't try to post this garbage AGAIN as "truth"... :lol:

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24 Jul 2012 14:10 #3 by FredHayek
To every thing, spin, spin, spin. Barack Obama grew up in the hate America First crowd. Even his own wife said his election was the first time she was proud to be an American.

So when someone from that background goes around the world saying that America acted incorrectly, it rings with a different tone than people like "W" who love the country but are willing to admit we can improve.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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24 Jul 2012 14:13 #4 by LadyJazzer
Now who's spin, spin, spinning.... :lol: Keep it up, sparkie...

Considering even the Dixie Chicks were saying that Bush "made them ashamed to admit that they were from Texas", I think Michelle's comment was pretty appropriate...even if the FauxNews clowns tried to take it out of context. I was ashamed of the Village Idiot myself.

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24 Jul 2012 14:47 #5 by LadyJazzer

RNC Issues False Attack On Obama Over Daily Economic Briefings In New Web Ad

The Republican National Committee (RNC) continued its line of attack that President Barack Obama is neglecting the economy in the pursuit of his own reelection with the release of a new web ad on Tuesday that invokes a year-old report to make a false claim about Obama's engagement with his economic advisers.

After leading with the president's lack of meetings with his jobs council in the last six months -- an issue turned into campaign fodder by presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney and members of GOP leadership in recent weeks -- the web ad, "These Aren't Gaffes," flips to a new statistic: Obama has had "ZERO daily economic briefings in the last 12 months."

Its source? A report by the Hill from more than one year ago, in June 2011, pointing out that Obama's White House schedule no longer seemed to include the daily economic briefings he had requested upon taking office.

It is true that at the time, the daily economic briefings had not formally appeared on the president's schedule for about a month. But in the same report, a White House official stated that Obama still received a daily economic briefing on paper.

Moreover, just a week after the Hill posted its story, the economic briefings returned to the president's schedule and still appears periodically on official guidance issued by the White House. This makes the RNC's statement -- that there have been zero daily economic briefings in 12 months -- false.

White House spokeswoman Amy Brundage confirmed to The Huffington Post that Obama continues to receive daily economic briefings in a variety of ways, including individual meetings with his economic advisors, group meetings with his economics team, paper briefings and meetings with outside advisors.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/2 ... 99183.html

Oh, NO!?!?! Say it ain't so?!?!?! The RNC issuing a FALSE ATTACK on Obama?!? I'm SHOCKED, I tell you. SHOCKED!!

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24 Jul 2012 14:52 #6 by FredHayek
There have been daily economic briefings even if we show no record of them? And once we are asked about them, they magically reappear. Smells a little fishy to me.

Are they wedged in between the rounds of golf and fund raising flights?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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24 Jul 2012 15:02 #7 by LadyJazzer
I love jingoism...I could and watch it for...minutes...

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24 Jul 2012 15:39 #8 by FredHayek

Democracy4Sale wrote: I love jingoism...I could and watch it for...minutes...

Jingoism is awesome. I suggest you instead adopt the defeatist posture of 1930's France. Romney is going to win anyway so you should just stop manning the call center and harrasing my neighbors.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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24 Jul 2012 15:43 #9 by LadyJazzer
Oh, I LIVE for manning the call center... You'd be surprised at how many of the people I contact say that there is NO WAY they will vote for Romney.

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24 Jul 2012 15:45 #10 by FredHayek

Democracy4Sale wrote: Oh, I LIVE for manning the call center... You'd be surprised at how many of the people I contact say that there is NO WAY they will vote for Romney.


Sad to see people lie to LJ just so they can go back to eating their dinner. Franks and beans again, because Obama continues to trash the economy.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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