White House to seek $7B in green energy contracts for DoD

07 Aug 2012 19:44 #1 by otisptoadwater

By Zack Colman - 08/07/12 03:20 PM ET

The White House announced Tuesday it is inviting contract proposals from green energy firms to boost the Army’s use of renewable energy.

The administration is making $7 billion available for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to spend on locally-generated biomass, geothermal, solar or wind energy for up to 30 years.

The move is part of a broader White House-led push to green the armed forces, over GOP opposition, which claims the efforts are a waste of taxpayer dollars.

The Defense Department has set ambitious targets, aiming for renewable sources to account for 25 percent of its energy by 2025, with the Army working toward getting 1 gigawatt of power from green sources by that year.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/242593-army-announces-renewable-energy-contracts-as-white-house-continues-green-push

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07 Aug 2012 20:54 #2 by ScienceChic
I'd think it would be a tactical advantage to not need fuel to be supplied to either a mobile unit or a base in a foreign country that may or may not be hostile?

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07 Aug 2012 21:52 #3 by Blazer Bob

Science Chic wrote: I'd think it would be a tactical advantage to not need fuel to be supplied to either a mobile unit or a base in a foreign country that may or may not be hostile?


What do you mean? A solar or wind powered tank? I am sure you recognize that whether a tank is powered my diesel or biodiesel, they both have to be brought in.

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07 Aug 2012 22:03 #4 by otisptoadwater

Science Chic wrote: I'd think it would be a tactical advantage to not need fuel to be supplied to either a mobile unit or a base in a foreign country that may or may not be hostile?


You would be correct if the alternative sources were already tried and true. They are not and it's the job of agencies like DARPA and NASA to do the homework on a smaller, less expensive scale. Once the new technologies and sources have been proven and the cost of production is lower than conventional source of energy it will be time to integrate alternative sources of energy across the Federal Government.

In the meanwhile, personnel, ships, tanks, aircraft, and other vehicles that are defending our nation need to be ready at all times. Develop new systems in the background and test them until they are proven and cheaper than current sources then integrate them in to the forces in the field.

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07 Aug 2012 22:29 #5 by Blazer Bob
Otis is right. 26$ a gal. for av gas is nuts. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/ ... B220120719


otisptoadwater wrote:

Science Chic wrote: I'd think it would be a tactical advantage to not need fuel to be supplied to either a mobile unit or a base in a foreign country that may or may not be hostile?


You would be correct if the alternative sources were already tried and true. They are not and it's the job of agencies like DARPA and NASA to do the homework on a smaller, less expensive scale. Once the new technologies and sources have been proven and the cost of production is lower than conventional source of energy it will be time to integrate alternative sources of energy across the Federal Government.

In the meanwhile, personnel, ships, tanks, aircraft, and other vehicles that are defending our nation need to be ready at all times. Develop new systems in the background and test them until they are proven and cheaper than current sources then integrate them in to the forces in the field.

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07 Aug 2012 23:25 #6 by Photo-fish
DoD - Reducing its reliance on fossil based aviation Fuel
http://cnie.org/NLE/CRSreports/07Jul/RL34062.pdf

A $10-per-barrel increase in the price of oil costs the Department of Defense approximately $1.3 billion (Nearly equal to entire procurement budget for the U.S. Marines).


-One out of eight: Number of U.S. Army casualties in Iraq resulting from protecting fuel convoys.

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07 Aug 2012 23:40 #7 by Something the Dog Said

otisptoadwater wrote:

Science Chic wrote: I'd think it would be a tactical advantage to not need fuel to be supplied to either a mobile unit or a base in a foreign country that may or may not be hostile?


You would be correct if the alternative sources were already tried and true. They are not and it's the job of agencies like DARPA and NASA to do the homework on a smaller, less expensive scale. Once the new technologies and sources have been proven and the cost of production is lower than conventional source of energy it will be time to integrate alternative sources of energy across the Federal Government.

In the meanwhile, personnel, ships, tanks, aircraft, and other vehicles that are defending our nation need to be ready at all times. Develop new systems in the background and test them until they are proven and cheaper than current sources then integrate them in to the forces in the field.

That has to be one of the most ludicrous statements of all time. How many defense systems has the Pentagon developed that are cheaper and even proven than current systems? You guys are such tools.

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07 Aug 2012 23:43 #8 by Photo-fish
Do you know how much the first FLIR goggles cost the DoD? Way, WAY more than the present models.

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08 Aug 2012 07:34 #9 by FredHayek
The military has often been used as a beachhead for liberal ideas, desegregation? Happened first in the military.

But under Obama, not only are we going to radically cut defense, but then force them to use their remaining funds on expensive energy alternatives.

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08 Aug 2012 07:51 #10 by LOL
I thought we had a SPR for energy reserves for the military. And what could be greener than a nu ku lar Carrier or Sub?

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