CBO: 30 Million Will Remain Uninsured Under ObamaCare

08 Aug 2012 23:39 #11 by otisptoadwater
No, what we need is a smaller government that is efficient and promotes small and medium businesses.

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

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08 Aug 2012 23:41 #12 by Raees
Oh, I thought you were arguing 30 million still wouldn't be insured under Obamacare so we need to expand it to cover them.

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09 Aug 2012 00:23 #13 by Soulshiner

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09 Aug 2012 06:22 #14 by LOL

otisptoadwater wrote: Currently, according to CBO, there are 53 million uninsured persons in the United States, including uninsured illegal aliens. The CBO estimates that in 2022--8 years after the Affordable Care Act has been fully implemented--30 million people will remain uninsured.

Moreover, under Obamacare, 8 percent of legal U.S. residents will remain without health insurance in 2022, according to CBO.


This is absolutely a valid point and criticism of Obamacare, which was sold as a necessary Federal government take-over of Health care because we lack universal coverage in this country. There have been many smaller conservative proposals shot down previously like tax incentives, fixed credits, expanded health savings accounts, opening insurance markets across state lines, etc etc.... shot down on the basis that they would be ineffective, and not get every "covered". So Obamacare covers less than 1/2 of the uninsured at a great cost and this is considered a success? Sounds like a half-assed plan to me that is full of problems and unknown future costs.

Furthermore, the whole purpose of the mandate and penalties was to get everyone in the risk pool, if that fails the whole premise is invalid.

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09 Aug 2012 06:53 #15 by Raees
The CBO report came out July 24th.

Worst case scenario: We save $84 billion dollars. The CBO also said ending Obamacare would cost us $109 billion.

The budget office reaffirmed its conclusion that the spending and revenue provisions of the health care law, taken together, would reduce future budget deficits. Savings in Medicare alone are expected to total roughly $700 billion in the coming decade.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/25/healt ... -says.html

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09 Aug 2012 07:15 #16 by LadyJazzer
So, the teabagger Republican Governors opt-out, screw their respective state's residents, and then claim that "Obamacare will leave 30 million uninsured"? That's like some clown using those "Second Amendment Remedies" on his parents and then throwing himself on the mercy of the court because he is "an orphan."

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09 Aug 2012 18:18 #17 by otisptoadwater

Raees wrote: The CBO report came out July 24th.

Worst case scenario: We save $84 billion dollars. The CBO also said ending Obamacare would cost us $109 billion.

The budget office reaffirmed its conclusion that the spending and revenue provisions of the health care law, taken together, would reduce future budget deficits. Savings in Medicare alone are expected to total roughly $700 billion in the coming decade.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/25/healt ... -says.html


Just like unemployment numbers coming out of this administration they seem to be under constant revision, cook the numbers until Barry likes them. Costs will go down under Obamacare as those who aren't covered get sick and start to die off, how long will it take the 30 million who aren't covered to kick the bucket?

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

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Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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09 Aug 2012 18:38 #18 by PrintSmith

Democracy4Sale wrote: So, the teabagger Republican Governors opt-out, screw their respective state's residents, and then claim that "Obamacare will leave 30 million uninsured"? That's like some clown using those "Second Amendment Remedies" on his parents and then throwing himself on the mercy of the court because he is "an orphan."

Fine SFB - tell us about the 27 million who would have remained uninsured if the unconstitutional provisions of the law had been upheld and the Governor's didn't have the option of opting out.

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