100 Million Americans getting welfare of some kind?

10 Aug 2012 08:59 #31 by RenegadeCJ

Democracy4Sale wrote: The sources for the numbers are all over the place. (If you don't get them from DailyCaller, RedState or some other Rightie site...)

FredHayek wrote: Liberal logic, Obama destroyed American confidence and 10 million jobs but created 4.5 lower pay, lower security employment.


Bush destroyed the economy...You can thank him for the lower-pay, lower-security jobs. (You know, the ones that were left after he, and people like Romney, shipped the good ones overseas with their off-shoring...or is "outsourcing"...I can never remember...)


I can't find any that match what you said. All of them show less jobs today than when Obama took office.

If Bush destroyed the economy, the democrat congress is fully to blame as well. I personally believe almost all of our politicians were to blame. It is partly why the Tea Party came to be, and why we reps are actully trying to get rid of those who caused all this. Democrats on the other hand, are rewarding those same "lifers" who are running the ship over the falls.

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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10 Aug 2012 09:04 #32 by LadyJazzer
Well, it's just not your day, is it... I found two page's worth on my first try.

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10 Aug 2012 09:21 #33 by FredHayek

Democracy4Sale wrote: Well, it's just not your day, is it... I found two page's worth on my first try.


Two pages of liberal media apologists? rofllol

The facts are the jobs disappeared under Obama's watch, and partially because Obama hasn't inspired Americans to risk investing in this economy. And Barack wants to increase the taxes on the people risking their homes and savings.

BHO: Sure, you need to open up new business, even if you didn't build it, you are going to pay for daring to earn more money.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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10 Aug 2012 09:23 #34 by LadyJazzer
Enjoy your Kool-aid...

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10 Aug 2012 09:36 #35 by pineinthegrass

RenegadeCJ wrote:

Democracy4Sale wrote: The sources for the numbers are all over the place. (If you don't get them from DailyCaller, RedState or some other Rightie site...)

FredHayek wrote: Liberal logic, Obama destroyed American confidence and 10 million jobs but created 4.5 lower pay, lower security employment.


Bush destroyed the economy...You can thank him for the lower-pay, lower-security jobs. (You know, the ones that were left after he, and people like Romney, shipped the good ones overseas with their off-shoring...or is "outsourcing"...I can never remember...)


I can't find any that match what you said. All of them show less jobs today than when Obama took office.

If Bush destroyed the economy, the democrat congress is fully to blame as well. I personally believe almost all of our politicians were to blame. It is partly why the Tea Party came to be, and why we reps are actully trying to get rid of those who caused all this. Democrats on the other hand, are rewarding those same "lifers" who are running the ship over the falls.


LJ gets her numbers from sources that don't count the millions of jobs lost after Obama first took office.

But with Bush they count the millions of jobs lost when he first took office even though he inherited a bad economy as well.

If you do a fair, rather than biased comparision, Bush outperforms Obama and they just can't handle it.




http://factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-eco ... t-of-hand/

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10 Aug 2012 09:44 #36 by LadyJazzer
So, "millions lost after he first took office"... Uh-Huh...So, you admit that includes all the millions that were being lost by Bush before he took office, and in the months immediately after before he could reverse the policies that Bush put in place that caused it.

Thanks. I'm glad we got that out of the way.

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10 Aug 2012 09:47 #37 by RenegadeCJ

Democracy4Sale wrote: So, "millions lost after he first took office"... Uh-Huh...So, you admit that includes all the millions that were being lost by Bush before he took office, and in the months immediately after before he could reverse the policies that Bush put in place that caused it.

Thanks. I'm glad we got that out of the way.


So when do you consider Obama in office? Not till 2010?

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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10 Aug 2012 09:49 #38 by LadyJazzer
What part of "millions lost AFTER HE FIRST TOOK OFFICE" are you having trouble with?

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10 Aug 2012 09:55 #39 by pineinthegrass

Democracy4Sale wrote: So, "millions lost after he first took office"... Uh-Huh...So, you admit that includes all the millions that were being lost by Bush before he took office, and in the months immediately after before he could reverse the policies that Bush put in place that caused it.

Thanks. I'm glad we got that out of the way.


All we got out of the way is that you made a phoney comparision between Bush and Obama.

The fact is that when Bush completed his first term Democrats called the economy the "worst since the Great Depression".

Obama has created fewer jobs than Bush did in the same time time frame, plus increased the debt far more as well. If you apply the same standards to Obama, the economy is much worse and you should be even more incensed about the economy than you were in 2004.

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10 Aug 2012 10:33 #40 by FredHayek
So if Obama can't fix Bush's "mistakes", why retain him? LJ admits he in unable to do anything, that unelected Grover Norquist is just too powerful.

Maybe Barack needs to resign and let Hilary take over. The Clintons know how to work with Republicans.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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