GOP pros fret over Paul Ryan

14 Aug 2012 15:00 #21 by LadyJazzer

BearMtnHIB wrote: Sascha and Malia will wind up as fat ass hag cows- just like their mommy.

Ryan is at least a conservative, and add the fact that he is a retail politician- he's much better with the people. He can speak better than Romney- and he's a much more articulate & likable guy than Romney.

And just who are these "GOP pros"- the article does not mention any names at all. If they are the country club republicans- then their opinions don't mean much of anything at all. We are in the process of getting rid of those progressive republicans- they are the garbage we have been taking out to the curb in the last few years.

Their opinions are out of date- and so are their big government politics.


The article gave some names, if you'd bothered to read it.

Thanks for confirming your racist-slime views... Be sure and pick up your white-robes from the cleaners...I hear there's another cross-burning tonight.

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14 Aug 2012 15:00 #22 by LadyJazzer

Ex-Reagan Budget Director: Paul Ryan's Budget 'Is Devoid Of Credible Math Or Hard Policy Choices'

Even conservatives are bashing Paul Ryan’s budget.

David Stockman, a former budget director under President Ronald Reagan, derided the budget plan of Mitt Romney’s vice presidential pick in an op-ed in The New York Times Tuesday.

“Mr. Ryan’s sonorous campaign rhetoric about shrinking Big Government and giving tax cuts to 'job creators' (read: the top 2 percent) will do nothing to reverse the nation’s economic decline and arrest its fiscal collapse,” Stockman wrote in the op-ed, later adding: “Mr. Ryan’s plan is devoid of credible math or hard policy choices.”

Stockman, who resigned in 1985 in protest over deficit spending, has added his voice to a chorus of economists criticizing Ryan’s "Path to Prosperity," which would give tax cuts to the wealthy while slashing funding for programs like Medicaid, Medicare and food stamps, all in the name of reducing the national debt.

Given Ryan’s interest in cutting the social safety net, it’s no surprise that Nobel-Prize winning and left-leaning economist Paul Krugman called Ryan’s budget proposal “just a fantasy” in a blog post Monday. But the fact that Stockman -- a budget director under conservative messiah Reagan and former managing director at now-defunct Wall Street firm Solomon Brothers -- is slamming Ryan’s budget lends weight to the overall criticism.

Stockman didn't stop at deriding Ryan's budget, though; he also criticized other financial policies of the Romney-Ryan ticket.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/1 ... f=business

Jeez, they can't even get the Republican budget experts to drink the Kool-Aid....

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14 Aug 2012 16:00 #23 by archer
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Ryan = "retail politician" very apt, kinda like a used car salesman, talk fast, skip over the dents and the fact that what you are selling is a piece of junk, and pretend you are doing the customer (voter) a favor, all the while knowing the only people who benefit are you and your boss (Romney). Yep.....Ryan is about as devious as they come. He's selling you all a path to the demise of the middle class and you conservatives are nodding your heads and believing the hype. He will lead you and this country off the cliff and you will smile the whole time until we all hit bottom and you exclaim "how did that happen"?

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14 Aug 2012 16:46 #24 by Blazer Bob

archer wrote: Ryan = "retail politician" very apt, kinda like a used car salesman, talk fast, skip over the dents and the fact that what you are selling is a piece of junk, and pretend you are doing the customer (voter) a favor, all the while knowing the only people who benefit are you and your boss (Romney). Yep.....Ryan is about as devious as they come. He's selling you all a path to the demise of the middle class and you conservatives are nodding your heads and believing the hype. He will lead you and this country off the cliff and you will smile the whole time until we all hit bottom and you exclaim "how did that happen"?



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14 Aug 2012 16:50 #25 by archer
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Yeah...that sums it up pretty well.

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14 Aug 2012 18:10 #26 by LadyJazzer

Paul Ryan Will Talk About Tax Policy 'In The Light Of Day' -- After The Election

WASHINGTON - The Romney campaign is willing to discuss its proposals on taxes "in the light of day," vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan said Tuesday evening -- just not until after the election.

Multiple tax policy analysts have concluded that Mitt Romney's tax plan -- to close loopholes and reduce taxes for the wealthy -- means higher taxes for most people in order for the math to work. Brit Hume of Fox News asked Ryan to counter that charge. "What we're saying is get rid of special interest loopholes and deductions that are uniquely enjoyed by the wealthy to lower the tax rates for everybody," Ryan said.

But lowering middle-class tax rates, if coupled with eliminating key deductions, could lead to an effective tax increase, the cornerstone of the analyses of Romney's tax plan. Hume pressed for specifics.

"That is something that we think we should do in the light of day, through Congress," Ryan told Hume, promising to "have a process for tax reform so that we do this in the front of the public. So no, the point I'm trying to say is, we want feedback from Americans about what priorities in the tax code should be kept, and what special interest loopholes we want to get rid of."

One of the "loopholes" that costs the IRS the most money is the mortgage interest deduction. Another relates to municipal bonds. Hume asked Ryan if either would be on the chopping block. Ryan refused to say.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/1 ... 77353.html

Gee, sounds like Sharron Angle...("I'll tell you AFTER I'm elected...[whoops...You lost....)

We'll discuss the "details" AFTER the election... rofllol :lol: And they really expect to win that way? rofllol :lol: You can't make this stuff up, folks....

Gee, sort of reminiscent of Romney's "Let's don't discuss income-inequality in front of the peasants...It should be talked about in 'quiet rooms.'"....

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14 Aug 2012 18:27 #27 by bailey bud
I'm a GOP voter. I'd have to say that the GOP's choice of Rep. Ryan has solidified my choice.

I lived in Ryan's district, in Southern Wisconsin (Rock County).

Anyone familiar with the region (especially Janesville) knows that the local economy was devastated when
GM pulled out at the end of 2008.

Re-Training programs are the backbone of the region's efforts to recover from the loss. Ironically, Rep. Ryan opposes those programs.

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14 Aug 2012 18:29 #28 by PrintSmith

Democracy4Sale wrote:

Ex-Reagan Budget Director: Paul Ryan's Budget 'Is Devoid Of Credible Math Or Hard Policy Choices'

By which it is meant that it isn't nearly radical enough given that the man resigned from his post under Reagan over the amount of deficit spending. If you think the Democrats are howling about allowing MediCare to be altered to include premium subsidies as an option, that's nothing compared to what Stockman advocates be done. Folks like LJ and archer would be means tested out of participation at all in the programs despite years of having their income taxed to fund them if Stockman had his way.

Edited to add:
Pretty much makes the case that Ryan is a moderate rather than a radical doesn't it? The radicals from both wings think he's off the mark - which pretty much puts him closer to the middle than the edges.

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14 Aug 2012 19:17 #29 by Blazer Bob

archer wrote: Yeah...that sums it up pretty well.


On occasion you still surprise me. I thought I hit the wall on that one.

I guess you are OK joining LJ in the genocide pool. Will wonders ever cease.

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14 Aug 2012 19:21 #30 by Soulshiner
How is RMoney not considered a RINO? Does that label only get put on pols that the right doesn't like?

When you plant ice you're going to harvest wind. - Robert Hunter

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