Who Will Concede?

So he did have a supermajority, just not long enough? Is he that weak of a leader that he can't even get one rep to believe his ideas are good? Not even the squishy reps??

So, it isn't a lie, it is just not long enough for you. That is fine. The point is, he is an inept leader, who doesn't even have ideas that are good enough to persuade anyone. Why even vote for him if his answer is....I can't do anything? At least Romney will get some consensus.

Yes...It is a lie... "Two years" is not "seven weeks"... Wanna try again? When the other party has already had secret meetings to pledge to block EVERY piece of legislation he puts forth, trying to "persuade" people who already have a political scorched-earth policy is a joke. (Come to think of it, the entire GOP is a joke.)

I can promise you that RMoney would get the same kind of "consensus" that the GOP gave to Obama. Count on it...

There are so many lies and distortions told by the right it's turned into the standard instead of the exception.

RenegadeCJ wrote: I will be upfront and say, if unemployment is back down around 5 to 5-1/2%, and we have a balanced budget, or even a slightly negative budget...That his policies succeeded.

That's a sucker bet.

First we'd need a budget.

RenegadeCJ wrote:

Democracy4Sale wrote: To programs already in place during the Bush years, and for the few victories that he's had. (Like eliminating the vultures in the middle at the banks for student loans...and then using the money saved to create even more Pell grants and student loans to send kids to college...)

It certainly hasn't gone to any jobs...(created by that "laser-like focus" in the House and the Senate)... Maybe it's in a bunch of those extra jet-engines for planes that the DoD said it didn't want or need; or the other weapons-systems that they said they didn't want or need. Or to fund the troops that are still over in Afghanistan fighting a war we didn't need...or want... Or for all those no-bid contracts with KBR and Blackwater that were already in place.... You can read a budget pie-chart as well as I can...

What about his 2 yrs of an unchecked supermajority in the house and senate? Are you saying they blocked Obama??

Because he did NOT have 2 years of unchecked supermajority in the house and senate. The Democrats had a supermajority for only SIX WEEKS, from the time that Al Franken was sworn in, July 2009 until Ted Kennedy died, August 2009. You can take the statement of 2 years of unchecked supermajority charitably as a mistake and myth or as an outright lie, but in either event, it is absolutely WRONG.

Heisenberg wrote: Dog is the only one who has come close to answering the question. Obama had the first two years to focus on the biggest problem but chose to focus on health care instead. Clinton worked across the isle and Obama chose not to. A good leader is not one who sets records for fundraisers and golf games... and you can't keep blaming the other side for blocking your ideas if you're not willing to sit down with them. If Obama wanted to work with the Republicans, his base would come unglued.

Of course the Republicans were the ones who refused bipartianship, announcing from the very beginning of his term that they would refuse to work with him, and their number one goal was to prevent him from having a record to run for a second term on.

Something the Dog Said wrote:

Heisenberg wrote: Dog is the only one who has come close to answering the question. Obama had the first two years to focus on the biggest problem but chose to focus on health care instead. Clinton worked across the isle and Obama chose not to. A good leader is not one who sets records for fundraisers and golf games... and you can't keep blaming the other side for blocking your ideas if you're not willing to sit down with them. If Obama wanted to work with the Republicans, his base would come unglued.

Of course the Republicans were the ones who refused bipartianship, announcing from the very beginning of his term that they would refuse to work with him, and their number one goal was to prevent him from having a record to run for a second term on.

Actually, that was one man's statement... and you know damn well that if Romney is elected, the priority number one for the Dems will be to make sure a dem (Hillary) is elected in 2016. You may not hear anyone say it, but to believe otherwise is living in a dreamland. This is what ALL politicians do, they want power, they want their way... we just have to decide which way we want to go in November.

So much for country first...

Heisenberg wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:

Heisenberg wrote: Dog is the only one who has come close to answering the question. Obama had the first two years to focus on the biggest problem but chose to focus on health care instead. Clinton worked across the isle and Obama chose not to. A good leader is not one who sets records for fundraisers and golf games... and you can't keep blaming the other side for blocking your ideas if you're not willing to sit down with them. If Obama wanted to work with the Republicans, his base would come unglued.

Of course the Republicans were the ones who refused bipartianship, announcing from the very beginning of his term that they would refuse to work with him, and their number one goal was to prevent him from having a record to run for a second term on.

Actually, that was one man's statement... and you know damn well that if Romney is elected, the priority number one for the Dems will be to make sure a dem (Hillary) is elected in 2016. You may not hear anyone say it, but to believe otherwise is living in a dreamland. This is what ALL politicians do, they want power, they want their way... we just have to decide which way we want to go in November.

One man who happened to the the majority leader of the House.

Soulshiner wrote: So much for country first...

I agree, and as the government gets more power over our lives, politicians will continue to dig in and do all they can to hold onto it. It's too bad we can't hold politician to performance standards... things may be different.